Targeted attack on our management with the Triangulation Trojan
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Targeted attack on our management with the Triangulation Trojan
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Re: Targeted attack on our management with the Triangulation Trojan
#2Kaspersky was spying on international citizens for over a decade, providing data for both the FSB and GRU.
...and now they're complaining about counter surveillance by the FBI?
Re: Targeted attack on our management with the Triangulation Trojan
#3Kaspersky was spying on international citizens for over a decade, providing data for both the FSB and GRU. ...and now they're complaining about counter surveillance by the FBI?
You make it sound like big tech companies never cooperate with the law enforcement. I bet CIA and FBI have their hand so far up Zuck’s ass it’s almost like Minority Report at this point.
Re: Targeted attack on our management with the Triangulation Trojan
#4Thread from yesterday:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36154455
“Clickless” iOS exploits infect Kaspersky iPhones with never-before-seen malware - 26 comments
Re: Targeted attack on our management with the Triangulation Trojan
#5Kaspersky was spying on international citizens for over a decade, providing data for both the FSB and GRU. ...and now they're complaining about counter surveillance by the FBI?
You make it sound like big tech companies never cooperate with the law enforcement. I bet CIA and FBI have their hand so far up Zuck’s ass it’s almost like Minority Report at this point.
Of course it is like this. We live in the golden age of cyberwars.
But you as a founder decide whose values of the surrounding society you align your company with.
In an autocratic nation these controls are kind of absolutist in nature, whereas in democracies you have at least some sense of oversight.
Given the mechanics of the game, where you reside your company tells a lot about who you're friends with.
These days on a larger scale there's basically NATO, SCO, UAE, Israel and the African Union as alliances (setting aside (former) British colonies).
Companies have to cooperate with either of those, otherwise they would not be allowed to exist.
Re: Targeted attack on our management with the Triangulation Trojan
#6From the linked technical report:
The oldest traces of infection that we discovered happened in 2019. As of the time of writing in June 2023, the attack is ongoing, and the most recent version of the devices successfully targeted is iOS 15.7.
Re: Targeted attack on our management with the Triangulation Trojan
#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
You make it sound like big tech companies never cooperate with the law enforcement. I bet CIA and FBI have their hand so far up Zuck’s ass it’s almost like Minority Report at this point.
Of course it is like this. We live in the golden age of cyberwars. But you as a founder decide whose values of the surrounding society you align your company with. In an autocratic nation these controls are kind of absolutist in nature, whereas in democracies you have at least some sense of oversight. Given the mechanics of the game, where you reside your company tells a lot about who you're friends with. These days…
> These days on a larger scale there's basically NATO, SCO, UAE, Israel and the African Union as alliances (setting aside (former) British colonies).
Which one's the good one?
Re: Targeted attack on our management with the Triangulation Trojan
#8Kaspersky was spying on international citizens for over a decade, providing data for both the FSB and GRU. ...and now they're complaining about counter surveillance by the FBI?
How is disclosing an Apple security issue "complaining"?
Re: Targeted attack on our management with the Triangulation Trojan
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
Of course it is like this. We live in the golden age of cyberwars. But you as a founder decide whose values of the surrounding society you align your company with. In an autocratic nation these controls are kind of absolutist in nature, whereas in democracies you have at least some sense of oversight. Given the mechanics of the game, where you reside your company tells a lot about who you're friends with. These days…
> These days on a larger scale there's basically NATO, SCO, UAE, Israel and the African Union as alliances (setting aside (former) British colonies). Which one's the good one?
Only Siths deal in absolutes.
Among that list, NATO is by far the preferred option.
Re: Targeted attack on our management with the Triangulation Trojan
#10From the article
> We believe that the main reason for this incident is the proprietary nature of iOS. This operating system is a “black box”, in which spyware like Triangulation can hide for years. Detecting and analyzing such threats is made all the more difficult by Apple’s monopoly of research tools – making it a perfect haven for spyware. In other words, as I’ve often said, users are given the illusion of security associated with the complete opacity of the system. What actually happens in iOS is unknown to cybersecurity experts, and the absence of news about attacks in no way indicates their being impossible – as we’ve just seen.