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Arm announces the Cortex X4 for 2024, plus a 14-core M2-fighter

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Re: Arm announces the Cortex X4 for 2024, plus a 14-core M2-fighter

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To quickly lower expectations before reading the article:

> Every year with these Arm flagship chip announcements, the company also includes a wild design for a giant mega-chip that usually never gets built.

That being said, this 14-core figure is when doing a full-Arm SoC (with Arm internal bus). SoC vendors are still allowed (AFAIK [0]) to do their custom interconnect that goes higher than that

[0] there have been rumors seen here that Arm is pushing towards a model where SoC vendors must do all-Arm components. That still sounds weird to me, and I'm not witnessing any actual effect of this, so I still highly doubt it.

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It’s hilarious how Apple has become the number one chip maker in the world. Intel CEO Pat Gelsinger called them a lifestyle company…

It's not surprising, anyone who sells iPhones is going to need a lot of chips. Gelsinger wasn't half wrong anyways - outside the consumer hardware market Apple is a no-show.

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It’s hilarious how Apple has become the number one chip maker in the world. Intel CEO Pat Gelsinger called them a lifestyle company…

It's not surprising, anyone who sells iPhones is going to need a lot of chips. Gelsinger wasn't half wrong anyways - outside the consumer hardware market Apple is a no-show.

Yes, but in consumer hardware, their silicon outperforms the competition.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not surprising, anyone who sells iPhones is going to need a lot of chips. Gelsinger wasn't half wrong anyways - outside the consumer hardware market Apple is a no-show.

Yes, but in consumer hardware, their silicon outperforms the competition.

Yep. Ray-ban's optics are world-class as well, but that doesn't exclude them from being called a lifestyle company.

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It’s hilarious how Apple has become the number one chip maker in the world. Intel CEO Pat Gelsinger called them a lifestyle company…

By what definition Apple is chip maker, let alone #1?

If AMD is a chip maker then so is Apple by the same metrics.

So, pick those metrics, they're certainly pushing large volumes, they're pushing some of the highest performance and some of the most efficient CPUs available.

So, they're #1 in power efficiency, #1 in fanless performance, #1 in Tablets, #1 in Fanless computers, #1 in Mini computers.

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For anybody looking for a "decoder ring" of sorts that briefly describes arm CPU lines, see https://www.arm.com/products/silicon-ip-cpu/

Finding this was helpful to me, as I can never keep track what is a fast (eg, Xeon equiv) type arm chip, and what's a low power embedded (Atom equiv) and what's a laptop / desktop chip.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but in consumer hardware, their silicon outperforms the competition.

Yep. Ray-ban's optics are world-class as well, but that doesn't exclude them from being called a lifestyle company.

Zeiss would have been a better comparison.
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