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How to Stare at Your Phone Without Losing Your Soul

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Re: How to Stare at Your Phone Without Losing Your Soul

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> AA meetings don’t give out badges to members who drink for less than 2 hours per day.

I don't agree with that analogy. To use a different analogy, people don't join Weight Watchers because they want to quit eating.

Also, from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholics_Anonymous#Criticism :

] Stanton Peele argued that some AA groups apply the disease model to all problem drinkers, whether or not they are "full-blown" alcoholics.[132] Along with Nancy Shute, Peele has advocated that besides AA, other options should be readily available to those problem drinkers who can manage their drinking with the right treatment.

Re: How to Stare at Your Phone Without Losing Your Soul

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post #4

> AA meetings don’t give out badges to members who drink for less than 2 hours per day. I don't agree with that analogy. To use a different analogy, people don't join Weight Watchers because they want to quit eating. Also, from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholics_Anonymous#Criticism : ] Stanton Peele argued that some AA groups apply the disease model to all problem drinkers, whether or not they are "full-blown"…

While what you quoted is not incorrect, and worth pointing out, the analogy stands. In AA, you only get the chip if you abstain from drinking. The chip (a little coin) is an all-or-nothing deal.

In AA, we do get people attending who just want to control their drinking. They're usually sent by the courts (in the US, at least) due to some misdemeanor they commited while drunk, as though those of us battling ourselves are supposed to teach some 20-something how to be responsible adult because their parents failed them. Sometimes one of those court-sent people finds out they have a real problem, and end up sticking around. However, for the most part, the rest are there for a few weeks because they have to be, we sign their slips, and never see them again. We don't give out chips for that.

Re: How to Stare at Your Phone Without Losing Your Soul

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But its more than that.

I might visit Reddit and Hacker News, not because the app summoned me via notifications, but because my brain summoned the app, after just a 15 minute hiatus.

The issue is that browser and certain apps are available to me on the phone instantly.

And there are no good controls to help me me MINDFUL.

What I want from the phone (I use an iPhone): - Upon every unlock, or upon every app open, I should receive a popup asking me why I want to use the app/phone. - I can enter whatever I want in that popup, but that writing exercise of a few words will help me realize if I am making a mistake of using the crack-gadget too often. - I should be able to white-list apps. - I should be able to see my logs all in one place for later review and reflection.

Re: How to Stare at Your Phone Without Losing Your Soul

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That's so true. I love Youtube for its music, documentaries and software engineering content.

But I hate the Shorts features, if I click on only one video, it sucks all my night.

I built a small app for blocking the Shorts features, in this way I can enjoy the advantages without having the bad sides.

Re: How to Stare at Your Phone Without Losing Your Soul

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post #7

But its more than that. I might visit Reddit and Hacker News, not because the app summoned me via notifications, but because my brain summoned the app, after just a 15 minute hiatus. The issue is that browser and certain apps are available to me on the phone instantly. And there are no good controls to help me me MINDFUL. What I want from the phone (I use an iPhone): - Upon every unlock, or upon every app open, I sho…

As the old saying goes, there is an app for that. Here you go : https://one-sec.app/
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