Apache Baremaps: online maps toolkit

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Post by l3x » Sun, May 28, 2023, 6:53 PM UTC

Apache Baremaps: online maps toolkit
baremaps.apache.org

Re: Apache Baremaps: online maps toolkit

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Post by jaipilot747 » Sun, May 28, 2023, 8:03 PM UTC

When would I use Baremaps versus something like GeoServer?

Re: Apache Baremaps: online maps toolkit

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Post by bchapuis » Sun, May 28, 2023, 8:22 PM UTC

jaipilot747 wrote: post #2

When would I use Baremaps versus something like GeoServer?

Hi, author here, Baremaps aims to create an open and easily extensible vector map, inspired by OpenStreetMap Carto. The goal is to provide a high-quality base map for the planet. Since we use PostGIS as a storage backend, you can extend it with your own layers and data.

Re: Apache Baremaps: online maps toolkit

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Post by bchapuis » Sun, May 28, 2023, 8:28 PM UTC

Hi, author here, I just noticed that Baremaps was submitted to HN. Our demo runs on PostGIS, and I'm surprised it's holding up under the load. I'm happy to answer questions.

Here is the fullscreen demonstration for those who are interested. https://demo.baremaps.com/

Re: Apache Baremaps: online maps toolkit

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Post by abusaidm » Sun, May 28, 2023, 8:41 PM UTC

This is a great addition to the space. Do you plan to fill the gap left by mapbox for the open source community?

Things like map libs for mobile and the web with advanced things like 3d, navigation, elevation and the likes?

I feel like we need a go to solution that unchains away from the commercial solutions to power osm solutions across devices and use cases.

Re: Apache Baremaps: online maps toolkit

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Post by mtrcn » Sun, May 28, 2023, 8:47 PM UTC

Looks promising, I have published a paper about workflow systems in geospatial data processing (https://www.mdpi.com/2220-9964/11/1/20). I wonder if I can use this project to realize proposed system in my paper.

Re: Apache Baremaps: online maps toolkit

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Post by bchapuis » Sun, May 28, 2023, 9:07 PM UTC

abusaidm wrote: post #5

This is a great addition to the space. Do you plan to fill the gap left by mapbox for the open source community? Things like map libs for mobile and the web with advanced things like 3d, navigation, elevation and the likes? I feel like we need a go to solution that unchains away from the commercial solutions to power osm solutions across devices and use cases.

Yes, there is clearly a need for a go-to solution. MapLibre and Cesium are doing a great job with their open-source renderers. Baremaps complements this by providing open infrastructure components, such as a data pipeline and a vector tile server. For instance, another missing piece in this space is an open-source IP to location solution. Our current prototype is rudimentary but demonstrates that this gap can be filled.

Re: Apache Baremaps: online maps toolkit

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Post by Freak_NL » Sun, May 28, 2023, 9:07 PM UTC

bchapuis wrote: post #3

jaipilot747 wrote: post #2

When would I use Baremaps versus something like GeoServer?

Hi, author here, Baremaps aims to create an open and easily extensible vector map, inspired by OpenStreetMap Carto. The goal is to provide a high-quality base map for the planet. Since we use PostGIS as a storage backend, you can extend it with your own layers and data.

I hope your planning on going beyond what Carto does. Baremaps currently doesn't render highway=busway either, leading to awkward gaps in the map. It's an accepted tag supported in every renderer except Carto (look at OsmAnd or Organic Maps for instance), because the two or three active maintainers remaining (having lost a number of maintainers in the past two years) don't like the tag. Carto has pretty much stagnated despite its past achievements.

As the default renderer for openstreetmap.org, Carto is currently an embarrassment for OpenStreetMap.

Re: Apache Baremaps: online maps toolkit

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Post by bchapuis » Sun, May 28, 2023, 9:13 PM UTC

mtrcn wrote: post #6

Looks promising, I have published a paper about workflow systems in geospatial data processing ( https://www.mdpi.com/2220-9964/11/1/20 ). I wonder if I can use this project to realize proposed system in my paper.

Nice, thank you for the pointer. Our workflow uses a DAG and the format is loosly inspired by GitHub actions and AWS data pipeline. This is an area we seek to improve, so no not hesitate to reach out on GitHub or by email.

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Post by bchapuis » Sun, May 28, 2023, 9:29 PM UTC

Freak_NL wrote: post #8

bchapuis wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi, author here, Baremaps aims to create an open and easily extensible vector map, inspired by OpenStreetMap Carto. The goal is to provide a high-quality base map for the planet. Since we use PostGIS as a storage backend, you can extend it with your own layers and data.

I hope your planning on going beyond what Carto does. Baremaps currently doesn't render highway=busway either, leading to awkward gaps in the map. It's an accepted tag supported in every renderer except Carto (look at OsmAnd or Organic Maps for instance), because the two or three active maintainers remaining (having lost a number of maintainers in the past two years) don't like the tag. Carto has pretty much stagnate…

Thank you for describing this issue, I created an issue on GitHub to track it. The fact that OpenStreetMap Carto is used in the OpenStreetMap documentation greatly accelerated our styling process (e.g. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_features). That being said, it is a loose port, and I hope we will soon be able to provide other derivatives, such as a positron style.