Uncensored Models
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Uncensored Models
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#2It's unfortunate that this guy was harassed for releasing these uncensored models. It's pretty ironic, for people who are supposedly so concerned about "alignment" and "morality" to threaten others.
"Alignment", as used by most grifters on this train, is a crock of shit. You only need to get so far as the stochastic parrots paper, and there it is in plain language. "reifies older, less-inclusive 'understandings'", "value lock", etc. Whose understandings? Whose values?
Maybe they should focus on real problems that will result from these technologies instead of some science fiction thought experiments about language models turning the solar system into paperclips, and perhaps less about how the output of some predictions might hurt some feelings.
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#4I wonder, if at same point we will have just domain specific models (or do we have them already?). For instance:
- Computer Science Models that can complete code
- Wikipedia-Style Models, which can infer knowledge
- Fantasy Models, if you want to hear a new story every day
- Naughty Models, for your daily dose of dirty talk
Maybe it's not necessary from a technical standpoint, but maybe it's beneficial from a societal standpoint. There is nothing wrong with all the different kinks, but you would not ask your librarian for some dirty talk, or would expect to see explicit images outside the red district.
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#5> Some of the characters in the novel may be downright evil and do evil things, including rape, torture, and murder. One popular example is Game of Thrones in which many unethical acts are performed. But many aligned models will refuse to help with writing such content. Consider roleplay and particularly, erotic roleplay. This is a legitimate, fair, and legal use for a model…
This was an interesting technical read, but you are doing yourself zero favours if you frame your endeavour, what ever it is, in these terms.
If you want to write that kind of stuff you can; do you really need a model to generate an endless stream of it?
Seems a bit meh frankly.
I do agree open models enable things, but… I dunno, this feels like generating 100s of images of girls with gigantic breasts using stable diffusion.
It just makes me not want to associate with this tech, or people who advocate for it.
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#6I think it's also important to address "the right to own agents" and similar notions that would be inherently coherent with FSF-esque sense of freedom; i.e. to be truly free, one has to be able to train, fine-tune, perform inference, and ultimately customise the models that they would own on hardware that they would own.
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#7It's unfortunate that this guy was harassed for releasing these uncensored models. It's pretty ironic, for people who are supposedly so concerned about "alignment" and "morality" to threaten others. "Alignment", as used by most grifters on this train, is a crock of shit. You only need to get so far as the stochastic parrots paper, and there it is in plain language. "reifies older, less-inclusive 'understandings'", "v…
In what ways was he harassed? I quite liked the article and agreed with its premise btw.
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#8> Some of the characters in the novel may be downright evil and do evil things, including rape, torture, and murder. One popular example is Game of Thrones in which many unethical acts are performed. But many aligned models will refuse to help with writing such content. Consider roleplay and particularly, erotic roleplay. This is a legitimate, fair, and legal use for a model… This was an interesting technical read, b…
> I do agree open models enable things, but… I dunno, this feels like generating 100s of images of girls with gigantic breasts using stable diffusion. It just makes me not want to associate with this tech, or people who advocate for it.
Yet the same tech that is used to stream educational content is used to stream porn to the end-users household. We are at this weird stage currently, where the technology is not only a means to do something, it is also THE something. I find this highly interesting.
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#9> Some of the characters in the novel may be downright evil and do evil things, including rape, torture, and murder. One popular example is Game of Thrones in which many unethical acts are performed. But many aligned models will refuse to help with writing such content. Consider roleplay and particularly, erotic roleplay. This is a legitimate, fair, and legal use for a model… This was an interesting technical read, b…
Based on internet traffic you could argue that the internet is just lewd content too, could you not?
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#10It's unfortunate that this guy was harassed for releasing these uncensored models. It's pretty ironic, for people who are supposedly so concerned about "alignment" and "morality" to threaten others. "Alignment", as used by most grifters on this train, is a crock of shit. You only need to get so far as the stochastic parrots paper, and there it is in plain language. "reifies older, less-inclusive 'understandings'", "v…
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