The Missing App Economy (2022)
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The Missing App Economy (2022)
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#2the problem with web is there's really no dispute mechanism and you don't know if you can trust an unknown website. doesn't mean you can't make it work just more friction that costs money.
Re: The Missing App Economy (2022)
#3the problem with web is there's really no dispute mechanism and you don't know if you can trust an unknown website. doesn't mean you can't make it work just more friction that costs money.
In the process of pulling an app off the app stores. Yea, there will be more friction, but to me, a person finding my app organically and having a more direct relationship with them means more to me and has been more valuable than the low conversion sales I get from casual app store browsing.
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#4the problem with web is there's really no dispute mechanism and you don't know if you can trust an unknown website. doesn't mean you can't make it work just more friction that costs money.
Isn’t that the purpose of credit cards and other payment processors like PayPal?
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#5To paraphrase the article: with the Google-Apple mobile duopoly, consumers are stuck between a rock (web apps) and a hard place (native apps).
It isn't in Apple's interest to allow web apps on iOS to have feature parity with native apps, because that's where Apple's moat is.
It isn't in Google's interest to allow mobile web browsers the freedom to behave like desktop browsers (extensions and filesystem APIs), because web ads are how Google establishes its moat.
The solution seems obvious; A phone with a barebones OS that can run a desktop-class browser. This is what the MokoPhone and Nokia N900 tried many years ago. Even Palm called its mobile offering WebOS, because they knew that competing via app store counts was a dead end.
Re: The Missing App Economy (2022)
#6the problem with web is there's really no dispute mechanism and you don't know if you can trust an unknown website. doesn't mean you can't make it work just more friction that costs money.
Isn’t that the purpose of credit cards and other payment processors like PayPal?
can you dispute subscriptions through credit cards or just the individual transaction. plus you don't know if your credit card info is just going to end up on the dark web. I think it's part of the reason people don't try new apps and stuff as much.
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#7To paraphrase the article: with the Google-Apple mobile duopoly, consumers are stuck between a rock (web apps) and a hard place (native apps). It isn't in Apple's interest to allow web apps on iOS to have feature parity with native apps, because that's where Apple's moat is. It isn't in Google's interest to allow mobile web browsers the freedom to behave like desktop browsers (extensions and filesystem APIs), because…
I’d say Safari is not bad at all on an iPad. I remember a lot of people carping because of bad ideas from PWAs not being implemented (spam spamifications, half-baked rube goldberg schemes that accomplish half of what Netscape Netcaster did back in the day…) but really all the real web apps and even demos like visualization of NeRF models work on my iPad.
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#8I recommend spending some time on OnlyFans to see what social networks can look like without the App Store.
Video fundraisers, paid messages, creator subscriptions, tips, interactive live streams and tiered subscriptions all work together to allow creators to flourish financially.
Apple’s 30% rules cripples YouTube’s ability to imitate these features and even restricts the viability of these features for platforms like Patreon who have a critical chunk of their engagement coming from iOS
Re: The Missing App Economy (2022)
#9To paraphrase the article: with the Google-Apple mobile duopoly, consumers are stuck between a rock (web apps) and a hard place (native apps). It isn't in Apple's interest to allow web apps on iOS to have feature parity with native apps, because that's where Apple's moat is. It isn't in Google's interest to allow mobile web browsers the freedom to behave like desktop browsers (extensions and filesystem APIs), because…
I’d say Safari is not bad at all on an iPad. I remember a lot of people carping because of bad ideas from PWAs not being implemented (spam spamifications, half-baked rube goldberg schemes that accomplish half of what Netscape Netcaster did back in the day…) but really all the real web apps and even demos like visualization of NeRF models work on my iPad.
> spam spamifications
As much as I dislike notifications, they're becoming a necessity in a world of decommoditized email. If I could know that my mail would actually get through when I send it to a willing recipient (as opposed to the almighty Google System Lords deciding that my mail should be dropped because their chicken entrails said it looked like spam that day) then there'd be no need to reinvent email as notifications... but here we are.
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#10I recommend spending some time on OnlyFans to see what social networks can look like without the App Store. Video fundraisers, paid messages, creator subscriptions, tips, interactive live streams and tiered subscriptions all work together to allow creators to flourish financially. Apple’s 30% rules cripples YouTube’s ability to imitate these features and even restricts the viability of these features for platforms li…
Sure, I'm glad it works that way for them. However, I'm glad Apple's rules exist so I don't have to deal with those and low-quality apps. I'm in the 98% majority that's fine with not having xxx or crap apps in the app stores.
Every time I use the android play store I'm just overwhelmed by the number of low quality crap.