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Show HN: A Gentle Introduction to the Fediverse

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Re: Show HN: A Gentle Introduction to the Fediverse

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Post by Xeoncross »

As a dev, I'm still waiting for the basic, single-binary, self-contained Rust/Go/Nim app that has been audited and is fairly locked down. Something I can passively run without a lot of drama.

Like hacker news, I don't need one-thousand-and-one cool ui tricks. Just a simple way to share text and photos with people. There should be a pretty easy way to ensure something like that could be audited to avoid every known injection issue (XSS, CSFR, SQL injection, heartbleed, CRIME, etc..)

Currently, when I look at OwnCloud and Mastodon I just picture Wordpress nightmares.

As an aside, I'm still beyond disappointed that the Activity Streams spec did not even mention the word 'encryption' one time.

Re: Show HN: A Gentle Introduction to the Fediverse

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Post by ftfish »

exabyte wrote: post #2

I'm curious, how would something like Nostr ( https://nostr.com/ ) fit in with the Fediverse? Does it generally enhance federation or would it compete? My understanding is that many federated services use ActivityPub protocol.

Great question, and I'll let someone with deeper technical understanding answer this, but using Wikipedia as a reference (1), it looks like "fediverse" is a bit loosely defined, with parts of it not being fully compatible with all of the other networks (2).

1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fediverse 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_software_and_pro...

Re: Show HN: A Gentle Introduction to the Fediverse

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Post by rsolva »

Xeoncross wrote: post #3

As a dev, I'm still waiting for the basic, single-binary, self-contained Rust/Go/Nim app that has been audited and is fairly locked down. Something I can passively run without a lot of drama. Like hacker news, I don't need one-thousand-and-one cool ui tricks. Just a simple way to share text and photos with people. There should be a pretty easy way to ensure something like that could be audited to avoid every known in…

I self-host GoToSocial, which is a Go implementation that is lightweight and minimalist. It might not meet all your demands, but it is good enough for me. I set it an forget it and it works. I guess it'll hit 1.0 this year.

Re: Show HN: A Gentle Introduction to the Fediverse

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Post by scooke »

exabyte wrote: post #2

I'm curious, how would something like Nostr ( https://nostr.com/ ) fit in with the Fediverse? Does it generally enhance federation or would it compete? My understanding is that many federated services use ActivityPub protocol.

It is similiar to Mastodon in that most users (from my impression) still sign up at a main host, or instance, trusting that their sign-up data is secure (the important thing are keys which are generated upon sign-up). Once that initial account is created though, one can start using any number of other hosts which can also act as clients. This would be one difference - with Mastodon, your account made at ABC instance stays with that instance. Another similarity though is that anyone can make their own instance, generate their own users keys, and then start using any host/client they want, including obviously their own. So, federation (but federation within the nostr world only) happens mostly through the freedom of users to move about, and by users being able to make their own instances (which then have to have "relaying" turned on to help federate). Nostr though also has a way for users who've made their own instance to also turn it into a node which can receive sats as payment for being a node, and this aspect is often promoted in whatever article you find about Nostr, which has, in my opinion, the unintended side effect of scaring people away - partly because it is quite technical, and partly because it's scary crypto.

Re: Show HN: A Gentle Introduction to the Fediverse

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Post by ftfish »

shaburu wrote: post #7

The main reason the mainstream social media apps are mainstream is because of the user base if fediverse runs on alternatives - it doesn't even matter if the alternatives are better. Without the user base Fediverse seems to miss the mark

We're getting there! https://fediverse.observer/stats

Re: Show HN: A Gentle Introduction to the Fediverse

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Post by Xeoncross »

rsolva wrote: post #6
Xeoncross wrote: post #3

As a dev, I'm still waiting for the basic, single-binary, self-contained Rust/Go/Nim app that has been audited and is fairly locked down. Something I can passively run without a lot of drama. Like hacker news, I don't need one-thousand-and-one cool ui tricks. Just a simple way to share text and photos with people. There should be a pretty easy way to ensure something like that could be audited to avoid every known in…

I self-host GoToSocial, which is a Go implementation that is lightweight and minimalist. It might not meet all your demands, but it is good enough for me. I set it an forget it and it works. I guess it'll hit 1.0 this year.

I'm really happy to see learn about GoToSocial, thanks for sharing I'll be investigating this evening.
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