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“He Got Rich from Defrauding People. Do I Have to Be Polite?”

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Re: “He Got Rich from Defrauding People. Do I Have to Be Polite?”

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The NYT got rich telling fibs about Ukraine and you can see it on the big screen in the movie "Mr. Jones." Do I have to be polite to them? Anthony Appiah got rich at universities that dumped many millions of dollars of student loans on the backs of his students. Do I have to be polite to him?

The whole reason society created politeness is from experience. We learn that life is not filled with absolutes. We learn that people and circumstances change. We learn that doing the right thing is often impossible because of imperfect information. Social censure like he endorses makes the world a very unpleasant place to live.

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The NYT got rich telling fibs about Ukraine and you can see it on the big screen in the movie "Mr. Jones." Do I have to be polite to them? Anthony Appiah got rich at universities that dumped many millions of dollars of student loans on the backs of his students. Do I have to be polite to him? The whole reason society created politeness is from experience. We learn that life is not filled with absolutes. We learn that…

Exactly this. Politeness is a way to allow social functioning in spite of bad behaviors. Different individual with different cultures and families will have different ideas about what is right and wrong. Politeness creates a field of communication that can allow those discussions to happen without physical in person violence.

Re: “He Got Rich from Defrauding People. Do I Have to Be Polite?”

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post #6

The NYT got rich telling fibs about Ukraine and you can see it on the big screen in the movie "Mr. Jones." Do I have to be polite to them? Anthony Appiah got rich at universities that dumped many millions of dollars of student loans on the backs of his students. Do I have to be polite to him? The whole reason society created politeness is from experience. We learn that life is not filled with absolutes. We learn that…

i see your point but where do you draw the line? would you still be polite to this person if he had committed rape?

Re: “He Got Rich from Defrauding People. Do I Have to Be Polite?”

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The NYT got rich telling fibs about Ukraine and you can see it on the big screen in the movie "Mr. Jones." Do I have to be polite to them? Anthony Appiah got rich at universities that dumped many millions of dollars of student loans on the backs of his students. Do I have to be polite to him? The whole reason society created politeness is from experience. We learn that life is not filled with absolutes. We learn that…

Exactly this. Politeness is a way to allow social functioning in spite of bad behaviors. Different individual with different cultures and families will have different ideas about what is right and wrong. Politeness creates a field of communication that can allow those discussions to happen without physical in person violence.

Physically violent people will physically attack you regardless of whether you are polite. They may even interpret your politeness as weakness. They may attack you because they are getting something out of it, or because it is fun to them.

And people who are not violent wont attack you even if you are rude.

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