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Folia – Multithreading Coming to your Minecraft server

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Re: Folia – Multithreading Coming to your Minecraft server

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The modding/custom server situation with Minecraft is so exhausting. I can't believe after all these years there is still no official modding or plugin API.

So now we have Folia, which is a fork of Paper, which is a fork of Spigot, which I believe was originally a fork of Bukkit. Nice. I guess people don't want to upstream patches for some reason.

Re: Folia – Multithreading Coming to your Minecraft server

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post #3

The modding/custom server situation with Minecraft is so exhausting. I can't believe after all these years there is still no official modding or plugin API. So now we have Folia, which is a fork of Paper, which is a fork of Spigot, which I believe was originally a fork of Bukkit. Nice. I guess people don't want to upstream patches for some reason.

We kinda do... in a limited fashion... for Bedrock.

Java MC's development had always been extremely conservative, and it always will be under Mojang. Its both saved it from going downhill and weighed it down.

Re: Folia – Multithreading Coming to your Minecraft server

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post #3

The modding/custom server situation with Minecraft is so exhausting. I can't believe after all these years there is still no official modding or plugin API. So now we have Folia, which is a fork of Paper, which is a fork of Spigot, which I believe was originally a fork of Bukkit. Nice. I guess people don't want to upstream patches for some reason.

We kinda do... in a limited fashion... for Bedrock. Java MC's development had always been extremely conservative, and it always will be under Mojang. Its both saved it from going downhill and weighed it down.

It's a shame Bedrock modding (behaviour packs?) is so limited. The performance is so much better than the Java version. It's also a shame it has Xbox shit and microtransactions shoved in.

Re: Folia – Multithreading Coming to your Minecraft server

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post #3

The modding/custom server situation with Minecraft is so exhausting. I can't believe after all these years there is still no official modding or plugin API. So now we have Folia, which is a fork of Paper, which is a fork of Spigot, which I believe was originally a fork of Bukkit. Nice. I guess people don't want to upstream patches for some reason.

I remember, back before Mojang was acquired by Microsoft the devs mentioned working on a modding API, and how it would allow for all kinds of things.

I have a feeling such plans were killed off during the acquisition, as it has never been mentioned since then. Even now it would be simple for the devs to allow players to add new blocks and items via server sent resource packs without needed a modded client, and yet for some reason they do not.

I still have to thanks Bukkit/Spigot for getting me in to Java in the first place tough, and thus my current position as a Java dev. I don't follow it as often but I still maintain a small server my friends play on.

Re: Folia – Multithreading Coming to your Minecraft server

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> provide a no-compromise solution Except for fabric/forge compatibility. :( Tick threading with server mods is just a mad dream anyway. Even dimensions threading is apparently impractical.

Paper and Spigot, the parent projects, have never been compatible with Forge and Fabric, and are more popular for servers.

Re: Folia – Multithreading Coming to your Minecraft server

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post #3

The modding/custom server situation with Minecraft is so exhausting. I can't believe after all these years there is still no official modding or plugin API. So now we have Folia, which is a fork of Paper, which is a fork of Spigot, which I believe was originally a fork of Bukkit. Nice. I guess people don't want to upstream patches for some reason.

- "Folia, which is a fork of Paper, which is a fork of Spigot, which I believe was originally a fork of Bukkit"

We're not old, the forks just fly by so very fast

Re: Folia – Multithreading Coming to your Minecraft server

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post #3

The modding/custom server situation with Minecraft is so exhausting. I can't believe after all these years there is still no official modding or plugin API. So now we have Folia, which is a fork of Paper, which is a fork of Spigot, which I believe was originally a fork of Bukkit. Nice. I guess people don't want to upstream patches for some reason.

In other words, grass roots open source development is hard :)

Re: Folia – Multithreading Coming to your Minecraft server

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We kinda do... in a limited fashion... for Bedrock. Java MC's development had always been extremely conservative, and it always will be under Mojang. Its both saved it from going downhill and weighed it down.

It's a shame Bedrock modding (behaviour packs?) is so limited. The performance is so much better than the Java version. It's also a shame it has Xbox shit and microtransactions shoved in.

Well the Java version is so moddable because its Java, thats almost impossible for Bedrock unless it goes open source or moves to unobfuscated C# (which is impossible because of the MTX of course).
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