The Swedish Pandemic Approach: Now we know the results
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The Swedish Pandemic Approach: Now we know the results
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Re: The Swedish Pandemic Approach: Now we know the results
#2Looking only at excess mortality is pretty shallow. Being European and knowing the differences in health care systems across countries, the excess mortality chart also reflects the quality of healthcare systems in these countries. It isn’t much surprise to see nordic countries being the best here.
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#3Looking only at excess mortality is pretty shallow. Being European and knowing the differences in health care systems across countries, the excess mortality chart also reflects the quality of healthcare systems in these countries. It isn’t much surprise to see nordic countries being the best here.
The interesting part is mostly comparing the nordic countries against each other. Sweden seemed to be doing much much worse early on due to the chosen strategy, but that no longer seems to be the case.
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#4Looking only at excess mortality is pretty shallow. Being European and knowing the differences in health care systems across countries, the excess mortality chart also reflects the quality of healthcare systems in these countries. It isn’t much surprise to see nordic countries being the best here.
However, is NL (e.g.) healthcare that much worse compared to SE?
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#5Only focusing on mortality from COVID ignores the very real detrimental health, mental-health, business and societal effects of lock-downs, so the long term benefits to the common man are very much more in their favor.
On the other hand they totally blew the power grab opportunities that were taken advantage of by others. So from that perspective there are many politicians that are laughing their way to the bank.
Lock downs became a political tool early on, and any place that still forces lock downs or masking is because politics. Which makes comparing them to another country an apple-and-oranges comparison.
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#6> The main reason for this different strategy was that the covid-19 mitigation in Sweden was handled by the expert agency, the Swedish Health Agency.
That's the opposite to other countries, where covid-19 mitigation was handled by media and bureaucrats.
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#7Looking only at excess mortality is pretty shallow. Being European and knowing the differences in health care systems across countries, the excess mortality chart also reflects the quality of healthcare systems in these countries. It isn’t much surprise to see nordic countries being the best here.
However, is NL (e.g.) healthcare that much worse compared to SE?
I don't know enough about Sweden, but while the overall quality of our healthcare is high, its capacity is tailored very tightly to normal situations and we have very little slack for an epidemic like this. So Dutch ICs overflowed while Germany still had space (and a lot of people were in fact transferred there).
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#8Excess mortality still looks substantially higher in Sweden than in Norway and Denmark (though not Finland) in this OWID data set, I wonder why the difference?
- https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-deaths-cumulative-...
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#9> The main reason for this different strategy was that the covid-19 mitigation in Sweden was handled by the expert agency, the Swedish Health Agency. That's the opposite to other countries, where covid-19 mitigation was handled by media and bureaucrats.
Not quite that simple…
Re: The Swedish Pandemic Approach: Now we know the results
#10This blog plucks the most positive figure and quote from a more balanced article: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-europe...
And this article compares figures from various sources, which aren't all in agreement: https://www.thelocal.dk/20230310/fact-check-did-sweden-have-...