Apple Not Accepting Opera Mini on iPhone

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Post by qhoxie » Thu, Oct 30, 2008, 5:44 PM UTC

Apple Not Accepting Opera Mini on iPhone
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Re: Apple Not Accepting Opera Mini on iPhone

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Post by tptacek » Thu, Oct 30, 2008, 6:03 PM UTC

I don't believe this surprised anybody, including the Opera team.

Re: Apple Not Accepting Opera Mini on iPhone

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Post by Dilpil » Thu, Oct 30, 2008, 6:04 PM UTC

Classic example of a business sacrificing long term gains for short term gains. Sure they gain money by doing this via google or whatever. But in the long run, well, this is why there is no Apple developer ecosystem.

Re: Apple Not Accepting Opera Mini on iPhone

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Post by dmpayton » Thu, Oct 30, 2008, 6:17 PM UTC

tptacek wrote: post #2

I don't believe this surprised anybody, including the Opera team.

Agreed, it's not like this is the first time Apple has denied a "competing" application.

I can't wait for Android to be released on a decent handset. Then I can give my iPhone to my wife.

Re: Apple Not Accepting Opera Mini on iPhone

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Post by wmeredith » Thu, Oct 30, 2008, 6:30 PM UTC

It's ham-handed typical Apple, but honestly, I'm glad. One of the main reasons I enjoy developing iPhone sites is that I don't have to support a bunch of random user agents.

Re: Apple Not Accepting Opera Mini on iPhone

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Post by DarkShikari » Thu, Oct 30, 2008, 6:32 PM UTC

I'm always confused by this. If Dell didn't allow Opera or Firefox or Linux to be installed on the computers they sell, or Microsoft didn't allow 3rd-party applications on Windows, people would be up in arms. But Apple is allowed to block anyone from installing any application on their own personal iPhone, and there aren't lawsuits flying?

Re: Apple Not Accepting Opera Mini on iPhone

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Post by tptacek » Thu, Oct 30, 2008, 6:33 PM UTC

dmpayton wrote: post #4

tptacek wrote: post #2

I don't believe this surprised anybody, including the Opera team.

Agreed, it's not like this is the first time Apple has denied a "competing" application. I can't wait for Android to be released on a decent handset. Then I can give my iPhone to my wife.

This isn't Podcast Listener Pro or whatever; nobody will be surprised if Apple turns down Windows Media Player or Azureus either. One expects Opera did this largely as a publicity stunt.

You're going to be the one geek in the room with the Android phone and the Nomad MP3 player, you know. =)

Re: Apple Not Accepting Opera Mini on iPhone

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Post by qqq » Thu, Oct 30, 2008, 6:37 PM UTC

DarkShikari wrote: post #6

I'm always confused by this. If Dell didn't allow Opera or Firefox or Linux to be installed on the computers they sell, or Microsoft didn't allow 3rd-party applications on Windows, people would be up in arms. But Apple is allowed to block anyone from installing any application on their own personal iPhone , and there aren't lawsuits flying?

Is Apple preventing it from being installed in any way or just via Apple's app distribution mechanism? (I don't know either way, just asking.)

Re: Apple Not Accepting Opera Mini on iPhone

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Post by alexandros » Thu, Oct 30, 2008, 6:48 PM UTC

qqq wrote: post #8

DarkShikari wrote: post #6

I'm always confused by this. If Dell didn't allow Opera or Firefox or Linux to be installed on the computers they sell, or Microsoft didn't allow 3rd-party applications on Windows, people would be up in arms. But Apple is allowed to block anyone from installing any application on their own personal iPhone , and there aren't lawsuits flying?

Is Apple preventing it from being installed in any way or just via Apple's app distribution mechanism? (I don't know either way, just asking.)

just via Apple's distribution mechanism. Which is the only way to install stuff on your iPhone, short of jailbreaking it.

Re: Apple Not Accepting Opera Mini on iPhone

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Post by dmpayton » Thu, Oct 30, 2008, 6:57 PM UTC

tptacek wrote: post #7

dmpayton wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed, it's not like this is the first time Apple has denied a "competing" application. I can't wait for Android to be released on a decent handset. Then I can give my iPhone to my wife.

This isn't Podcast Listener Pro or whatever; nobody will be surprised if Apple turns down Windows Media Player or Azureus either. One expects Opera did this largely as a publicity stunt. You're going to be the one geek in the room with the Android phone and the Nomad MP3 player, you know. =)

One expects Opera did this largely as a publicity stunt.

I think they were testing the waters to see how Apple would react to a larger and much better-known company putting a competing product into the app store. Unsurprisingly, Apple did the same thing they've always done.

You're going to be the one geek in the room with the Android phone and the Nomad MP3 player, you know. =)

That fine, as long as I have the choice to be that geek. That's what attracts me (and other geeks, I'm sure) to Android the most: I have choices. If I don't like the default media player, I can install another one (or, barring that, write my own) without fear that the Almighty Apple will lay the smackdown.