Rife Is a Framework Experiment

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Post by hacktember » Mon, Feb 20, 2023, 1:29 AM UTC

Rife Is a Framework Experiment
rife2.com

Re: Rife Is a Framework Experiment

#2

Post by isodev » Mon, Feb 20, 2023, 6:37 AM UTC

It’s always nice to see full-stack, batteries included frameworks. However, whenever I see Java, I can’t help but think about Oracle and it turns into a very unpleasant feeling.

Re: Rife Is a Framework Experiment

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Post by ivolimmen » Mon, Feb 20, 2023, 6:43 AM UTC

There are a huge set of web frameworks in Java that have the same example as shown on this site; I have no idea how this differs from, say, https://ratpack.io or https://sparkjava.com. This really needs some key features on the site to sell it.

Re: Rife Is a Framework Experiment

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Post by sockaddr » Mon, Feb 20, 2023, 7:14 AM UTC

isodev wrote: post #2

It’s always nice to see full-stack, batteries included frameworks. However, whenever I see Java, I can’t help but think about Oracle and it turns into a very unpleasant feeling.

Yeah I’d never touch anything Oracle. Don’t reward horrible behavior. Best thing the industry can do is ignore them as much as possible and let them fade away.

Re: Rife Is a Framework Experiment

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Post by revskill » Mon, Feb 20, 2023, 8:00 AM UTC

I thought "modern Java" means classless ?

Why do i need to put some code inside another superficial class here ?

Re: Rife Is a Framework Experiment

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Post by winrid » Mon, Feb 20, 2023, 8:07 AM UTC

revskill wrote: post #5

I thought "modern Java" means classless ? Why do i need to put some code inside another superficial class here ?

Everything in java is a class, not sure what you mean.

Personally, it's nice from an operations perspective. Makes debugging performance problems a lot easier.

Re: Rife Is a Framework Experiment

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Post by winrid » Mon, Feb 20, 2023, 8:08 AM UTC

sockaddr wrote: post #4

isodev wrote: post #2

It’s always nice to see full-stack, batteries included frameworks. However, whenever I see Java, I can’t help but think about Oracle and it turns into a very unpleasant feeling.

Yeah I’d never touch anything Oracle. Don’t reward horrible behavior. Best thing the industry can do is ignore them as much as possible and let them fade away.

Just like there are different C compilers there are different JDK/JREs.

Re: Rife Is a Framework Experiment

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Post by revskill » Mon, Feb 20, 2023, 8:08 AM UTC

winrid wrote: post #6

revskill wrote: post #5

I thought "modern Java" means classless ? Why do i need to put some code inside another superficial class here ?

Everything in java is a class, not sure what you mean. Personally, it's nice from an operations perspective. Makes debugging performance problems a lot easier.

Then it's "old Java", not "modern java" ?

Re: Rife Is a Framework Experiment

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Post by mrkeen » Mon, Feb 20, 2023, 8:20 AM UTC

revskill wrote: post #5

I thought "modern Java" means classless ? Why do i need to put some code inside another superficial class here ?

> I thought "modern Java" means classless ?

Nope.

> Why do i need to put some code inside another superficial class here ?

Which class is the superficial class?

Re: Rife Is a Framework Experiment

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Post by hibbelig » Mon, Feb 20, 2023, 8:29 AM UTC

revskill wrote: post #5

I thought "modern Java" means classless ? Why do i need to put some code inside another superficial class here ?

Are you thinking of JavaScript? In Java you can’t even write hello world without a class.