Apple, please don’t take all of the buttons away
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Apple, please don’t take all of the buttons away
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Re: Apple, please don’t take all of the buttons away
#2I've seen enough people be astonished to learn that their laptop's touchpad is just using haptic trickery to simulate a button that I think their anecdata really just isn't representative. I've seen people who know that it's using haptic trickery use the depth rod of a set of calipers because they just don't believe it.
I think that a poorly engineered power button (one which can become inoperative if the OS freezes) is a terrible idea, but the mere concept of haptic buttons has been pretty well proven.
And I say that as an Apple critic. I've had enough power buttons fail on Android phones that this would actually add a point to the "pros" column (though still not enough to outweigh the "cons" column).
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#3I like my MacBook's Touchpad a lot. I also like the iPhone SE/X (hehe)'s haptic feedback combined with the pressure sensor.
With this change they might actually get around to implementing a (software defined) shutter button.
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#4The nest thermostat has a model that is capacitive button only. God I hate it. I like the nest thermostat with rotating buttons. But it’s much more money.
This might be a money saving move.
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#5I've seen enough people be astonished to learn that their laptop's touchpad is just using haptic trickery to simulate a button that I think their anecdata really just isn't representative. I've seen people who know that it's using haptic trickery use the depth rod of a set of calipers because they just don't believe it. I think that a poorly engineered power button (one which can become inoperative if the OS freezes)…
The touchpad's feedback is implemented very low in the firmware, so it almost never fails to respond. The device needs to be catastrophically out of power or catastrophically locked up. Both states are not easy to achieve.
Re: Apple, please don’t take all of the buttons away
#6I've seen enough people be astonished to learn that their laptop's touchpad is just using haptic trickery to simulate a button that I think their anecdata really just isn't representative. I've seen people who know that it's using haptic trickery use the depth rod of a set of calipers because they just don't believe it. I think that a poorly engineered power button (one which can become inoperative if the OS freezes)…
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#7I could accept buttonlessness but I see a few issues
1. It will make rugged cases hard to do, probably involving conductive rubber, and extra types of materials add cost. I guess they'll have to have a cutout, and sticking your finger in the touchy side hole might be not be as nice as the designers who probably think caseless phones are a sane idea want it to be.
2. Holding real power buttons for is how you hard power cycle things.
1 can be fixed if people just kind of get used to a shallow hole as the new definition of a button, 2 can't really be fixed unless you want water to accidentally reboot your phone, or your sensing is really amazing.
If they make the sensing good enough, and case designers make it work without compromising ruggedness, I'm fine with it, as long as the implementation is good by the time it comes for us Androiders. But i don't see how unless you're doing some kind of optical sensing or something.
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#8think about those times when phone goes off in class and you race to hit the button while it’s in your pocket.
Re: Apple, please don’t take all of the buttons away
#9I've seen enough people be astonished to learn that their laptop's touchpad is just using haptic trickery to simulate a button that I think their anecdata really just isn't representative. I've seen people who know that it's using haptic trickery use the depth rod of a set of calipers because they just don't believe it. I think that a poorly engineered power button (one which can become inoperative if the OS freezes)…
The touchpad's feedback is implemented very low in the firmware, so it almost never fails to respond. The device needs to be catastrophically out of power or catastrophically locked up. Both states are not easy to achieve.
I had it 2 times in 7 years os continuous use of the Macbook. It is very rare indeed.
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#10I still miss the home button on the iPhone. I know it takes up what otherwise would be screen space. I know it's been years. But the UX of what we have now is so much worse.
Touch ID is significantly better than Face ID. Way less false positives. Way less false failures that force you to enter your passcode. You can use it in the dark. You can use it in your pocket. I ditched my iPad Pro for an iPad Air specifically because it has Touch ID rather than Face ID>
Want to exit the app? Tap the home button. Select an app? Double tap?
What's wrong with swiping up? Where you swipe from varies depending on the orientation of the app. That may not always be obvious. With a photo for example. Is it oriented a way because of the phone's rotation when it was taken or because of the phone's rotation now? The gesture to get to app selection is super awkward (ie swipe up-right-up). It's so awkward.
Why can't apple put Touch ID on the back? Or on the sides? Why can't they have a physical home button (even one of the haptic feedback buttons) on the back?
Losing the home button is such a UX fail.