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At least four Google AI researchers have joined OpenAI

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Re: At least four Google AI researchers have joined OpenAI

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It seems like, at least initially, FB and Google had far superior tech and talent compared to OpenAI. But they were slow to move, and with the recent media hype and the giant support from Microsoft, the best people seem to be jumping ship quickly over there now. I wonder how this will play out.

Re: At least four Google AI researchers have joined OpenAI

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I wonder how much influence the Google layoffs had on the decision making.

Back before the layoffs, Google was seen as a very stable and safe job, and any consideration of changing jobs would have to be balanced against that.

Now Google has lost the perception, so it may cause people who otherwise would have stayed at Google to go to other companies.

Re: At least four Google AI researchers have joined OpenAI

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It seems like, at least initially, FB and Google had far superior tech and talent compared to OpenAI. But they were slow to move, and with the recent media hype and the giant support from Microsoft, the best people seem to be jumping ship quickly over there now. I wonder how this will play out.

I wonder if the recent Google firings also influenced the decision

Re: At least four Google AI researchers have joined OpenAI

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It seems like, at least initially, FB and Google had far superior tech and talent compared to OpenAI. But they were slow to move, and with the recent media hype and the giant support from Microsoft, the best people seem to be jumping ship quickly over there now. I wonder how this will play out.

I think chatgpt is over hyped like hyperloop.

Feels good it must be good is what media belives

Re: At least four Google AI researchers have joined OpenAI

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The salaries for these positions are breathtaking. Over a million a year, from what I hear second-hand. Easily worth it for OpenAI. Sam is living up to everything pg always said he was.

How do you measure if it’s worth it?

It erodes Google's position as the premier research institute.

If an ambitious grad wanted to make their mark, they'd either apply to one of Google's institutions (DeepMind, Brain) or be generated by TPUs (if they were literally a grad[ient]).

Nowadays, not so much. Researchers are realizing that Google is the place to go if you don't want your research to be incorporated into products, except indirectly (Youtube recommendations, google ad placement, etc). Meanwhile OpenAI is reshaping the world.

It's in OpenAI's interest to strike while the iron is hot, as they say. This hype will die down eventually, but displacing 30 million-dollar researchers from Google will have long-term effects that are hard to measure.

Plus, PhDs are the resource that can't be replaced. If someone magically vanished OpenAI's PhDs tomorrow, it would be very hard for them to recover. Whereas if someone vanished every remaining Twitter engineer, Musk could probably pull off a recovery by hiring replacements.

Re: At least four Google AI researchers have joined OpenAI

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It seems like, at least initially, FB and Google had far superior tech and talent compared to OpenAI. But they were slow to move, and with the recent media hype and the giant support from Microsoft, the best people seem to be jumping ship quickly over there now. I wonder how this will play out.

I think chatgpt is over hyped like hyperloop. Feels good it must be good is what media belives

People said the same thing about cloud computing and machine learning. When the cost per compute approached commodity status for both, those opinions quickly changed.
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