The V8 Myth: Why JavaScript is not a Worthy Competitor
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The V8 Myth: Why JavaScript is not a Worthy Competitor
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Re: The V8 Myth: Why JavaScript is not a Worthy Competitor
#2Adobe yet again not getting it?
I realize that one person does not the voice of Adobe make, but I would have thought that he would realize that Javascript is very often not used in isolation, and more often than not as part of a large suite of technologies (Databases, network infrastructure, backend code - if not JS).
Re: The V8 Myth: Why JavaScript is not a Worthy Competitor
#3The Web: You are indeed brave, Sir Knight, but the fight is mine.
Adobe: Oh, had enough, eh?
The Web: Look, you stupid bastard. You've got no arms left.
Adobe: Yes, I have.
The Web: Look!
Adobe: Just a flesh wound.
The Web: What are you going to do, bleed on me?
Adobe: Oh. Oh, I see. Running away, eh? You yellow bastards! Come back here and take what's coming to you. I'll bite your legs off!
Re: The V8 Myth: Why JavaScript is not a Worthy Competitor
#4The Web: You are indeed brave, Sir Knight, but the fight is mine. Adobe: Oh, had enough, eh? The Web: Look, you stupid bastard. You've got no arms left. Adobe: Yes, I have. The Web: Look! Adobe: Just a flesh wound. The Web: What are you going to do, bleed on me? Adobe: Oh. Oh, I see. Running away, eh? You yellow bastards! Come back here and take what's coming to you. I'll bite your legs off!
Upvoted not for the humor, but for the aptness of the analogy. JavaScript is universal and free. If Adobe can create a sort-of-compatible environment that allows certain classes of apps like games to run better, great for them. Perhaps their marketing can be, "If JavaScript isn't fast enough, we've got you covered."
At least it's not Dart!
Re: The V8 Myth: Why JavaScript is not a Worthy Competitor
#5I want to see the benchmarks and the tests used...
Re: The V8 Myth: Why JavaScript is not a Worthy Competitor
#6The Web: You are indeed brave, Sir Knight, but the fight is mine. Adobe: Oh, had enough, eh? The Web: Look, you stupid bastard. You've got no arms left. Adobe: Yes, I have. The Web: Look! Adobe: Just a flesh wound. The Web: What are you going to do, bleed on me? Adobe: Oh. Oh, I see. Running away, eh? You yellow bastards! Come back here and take what's coming to you. I'll bite your legs off!
If we follow the analogy: after failing repeatedly to find the Holy Grail, Adobe will get arrested by police just as they are about to attack Castle Aaaaarrrrrrggghhh.
Re: The V8 Myth: Why JavaScript is not a Worthy Competitor
#7At best, this reeks of like 2000-era Microsoft, "Why does everybody get so excited about Javascript still? ActionScript is way better! Duh!"
As far as actual points in the fine article -- a test using some sort of strongly typed data on an unreleased actionscript vm ran three times faster than v8 running similar code.
I'm not shocked at all, and think Javascript could badly use at the least some type hinting, personally. But, this author is at best just missing it, at worst is misleading others.
I recently ported a Flex app to HTML5. Frame rates quintupled on a modern browser; in a real, mixed-use environment, ActionScript-based tools, interpreted with the Flash or Flex runtime, are roughly one-fifth the speed in the modern browser.
If this speed delta trended the other way, Flash would still be vigorously defended by developers all over the world who would say "we have to have this speed, don't take it away from us!"
Re: The V8 Myth: Why JavaScript is not a Worthy Competitor
#8Is this an official Adobe communication or just some guy who will be packing his desk later today?
Re: The V8 Myth: Why JavaScript is not a Worthy Competitor
#9Oh, I guess all the JS devs who work in the language every day didn't get the memo.
But in all seriousness, who couldn't have guessed that there would be some Flash/Actionscript dead-enders? Incredibly unsurprising that this was posted on adobe dot com.
Re: The V8 Myth: Why JavaScript is not a Worthy Competitor
#10Adobe yet again not getting it? I realize that one person does not the voice of Adobe make, but I would have thought that he would realize that Javascript is very often not used in isolation, and more often than not as part of a large suite of technologies (Databases, network infrastructure, backend code - if not JS).
I think he's talking about using Javascript in flash's tradition role, i.e web games and interactive content.