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Stripe increases price for business in the European Economic Area

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Re: Stripe increases price for business in the European Economic Area

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How can Europeans use Stripe when they can't use Google Fonts and Google Analytics on the grounds that sending even a single IP packet to a server under the control of a US company violates the GDPR?

Is that how it works? I thought as long as the user gives explicit consent to that happening it's fine. Most checkouts I have seen have a checkbox you need to check before being redirected to stripe/paypal and the likes which asks for explicit consent to the privacy policy rules.

Re: Stripe increases price for business in the European Economic Area

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post #3

How can Europeans use Stripe when they can't use Google Fonts and Google Analytics on the grounds that sending even a single IP packet to a server under the control of a US company violates the GDPR?

Is that how it works? I thought as long as the user gives explicit consent to that happening it's fine. Most checkouts I have seen have a checkbox you need to check before being redirected to stripe/paypal and the likes which asks for explicit consent to the privacy policy rules.

It's not even slightly how it works, and your interpretation is correct, so long as the customer has consented then you're fine. The issue with Google Fonts and Analytics is that the customer has very rarely consented to tracking (particularly with fonts), and in a great many cases even where there is a "I consent to tracking cookies" dialog the cookies were dropped before it was displayed.

Re: Stripe increases price for business in the European Economic Area

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How can Europeans use Stripe when they can't use Google Fonts and Google Analytics on the grounds that sending even a single IP packet to a server under the control of a US company violates the GDPR?

If anybody is wondering what the parent comment is referencing: https://www.theregister.com/2022/01/31/website_fine_google_f...

Re: Stripe increases price for business in the European Economic Area

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is that how it works? I thought as long as the user gives explicit consent to that happening it's fine. Most checkouts I have seen have a checkbox you need to check before being redirected to stripe/paypal and the likes which asks for explicit consent to the privacy policy rules.

It's not even slightly how it works, and your interpretation is correct, so long as the customer has consented then you're fine. The issue with Google Fonts and Analytics is that the customer has very rarely consented to tracking (particularly with fonts), and in a great many cases even where there is a "I consent to tracking cookies" dialog the cookies were dropped before it was displayed.

Sick of those stupid dialogs.

Re: Stripe increases price for business in the European Economic Area

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is that how it works? I thought as long as the user gives explicit consent to that happening it's fine. Most checkouts I have seen have a checkbox you need to check before being redirected to stripe/paypal and the likes which asks for explicit consent to the privacy policy rules.

It's not even slightly how it works, and your interpretation is correct, so long as the customer has consented then you're fine. The issue with Google Fonts and Analytics is that the customer has very rarely consented to tracking (particularly with fonts), and in a great many cases even where there is a "I consent to tracking cookies" dialog the cookies were dropped before it was displayed.

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Re: Stripe increases price for business in the European Economic Area

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I have been pondering transaction costs lately. Seems like this is an area where intervention could have massive impact: these costs are effectively a tax that incurs deadweight loss so according to prevailing economic theory if we can reduce it the whole economy should be catalysed.

IIUC governments already introduce price caps for certain elements of this market but I think we could be doing more? Like mandating incumbents to implement open standards and subsidising their competitors?

Dunno though I'm not very informed about the topic, just suddenly discovered recently how much of my income is just funding a fairly small number of payment providers.

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