Pfizer Responds to Covid Gain of Function Research Claims
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Re: Pfizer Responds to Covid Gain of Function Research Claims
#2„In a limited number of cases when a full virus does not contain any known gain of function mutations, such virus may be engineered to enable the assessment of antiviral activity in cells.“
via https://nitter.net/Tim_Roehn/status/1619281947741806592#m
so they practice gain of function.
and i bet they don't do that in the us. wasn't there some interesting back and forth about ominous us led bio engineering labs in the ukraine? someone with a link to that senate hearing with rand paul iirc.
Re: Pfizer Responds to Covid Gain of Function Research Claims
#3Can someone explain this it's probably not relevant but baffles me why it's never spoken about.
Let's say you were tasked with making a virus like COVID-19. How would you go about it?
I think the answers obvious you take a potential source virus like the coronaviruses in bats and expose humans. You could literally culture the virus and inject it into a human.
Let's put on tinfoil hats, and say you could run this experiment in a prison. If you're careful you could introduce it at a bloc and culture the result if an infection seems to spread.
After a few cycles you're likely to get something like COVID out the other end. This is the bioengineering we do for attenuated pathogen vaccines.
So what exactly do they mean that it'd be impossible to bioengineer COVID?
Re: Pfizer Responds to Covid Gain of Function Research Claims
#4Can someone explain this it's probably not relevant but baffles me why it's never spoken about. Let's say you were tasked with making a virus like COVID-19. How would you go about it? I think the answers obvious you take a potential source virus like the coronaviruses in bats and expose humans. You could literally culture the virus and inject it into a human. Let's put on tinfoil hats, and say you could run this expe…
You form a group, call it something like Eco Health Alliance, and the give financial stakes like offering to put names on any future patents to members of the NIH and FDA making it in their best personal interest to approve your "not gain of function", but really gain of function research in Wuhan China, then sit back the let the Chinese figure out the particulars. If it escapes the lab, just order the evidence deleted and have one of the members of the project write a paper that will be taken at face value, uncritically, that it's impossible that the virus came from a lab and use that paper as a justification for censorship of anyone on social media who says otherwise, you can also claim they are all racist.
Re: Pfizer Responds to Covid Gain of Function Research Claims
#5Can someone explain this it's probably not relevant but baffles me why it's never spoken about. Let's say you were tasked with making a virus like COVID-19. How would you go about it? I think the answers obvious you take a potential source virus like the coronaviruses in bats and expose humans. You could literally culture the virus and inject it into a human. Let's put on tinfoil hats, and say you could run this expe…
You form a group, call it something like Eco Health Alliance, and the give financial stakes like offering to put names on any future patents to members of the NIH and FDA making it in their best personal interest to approve your "not gain of function", but really gain of function research in Wuhan China, then sit back the let the Chinese figure out the particulars. If it escapes the lab, just order the evidence delet…
Don’t forget that you’re in China because EU and US regulations mandate an unaffiliated member of the public exercises active oversight of this research.
Re: Pfizer Responds to Covid Gain of Function Research Claims
#6This is responding to an undercover video by the activists at Project Veritas.
They have released a video that appears to show a Pfizer director saying they are mutating new COVID lines for vaccine purposes.
Re: Pfizer Responds to Covid Gain of Function Research Claims
#7Can someone explain this it's probably not relevant but baffles me why it's never spoken about. Let's say you were tasked with making a virus like COVID-19. How would you go about it? I think the answers obvious you take a potential source virus like the coronaviruses in bats and expose humans. You could literally culture the virus and inject it into a human. Let's put on tinfoil hats, and say you could run this expe…
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Re: Pfizer Responds to Covid Gain of Function Research Claims
#8Can someone explain this it's probably not relevant but baffles me why it's never spoken about. Let's say you were tasked with making a virus like COVID-19. How would you go about it? I think the answers obvious you take a potential source virus like the coronaviruses in bats and expose humans. You could literally culture the virus and inject it into a human. Let's put on tinfoil hats, and say you could run this expe…
You form a group, call it something like Eco Health Alliance, and the give financial stakes like offering to put names on any future patents to members of the NIH and FDA making it in their best personal interest to approve your "not gain of function", but really gain of function research in Wuhan China, then sit back the let the Chinese figure out the particulars. If it escapes the lab, just order the evidence delet…
Just make sure you have the world media prepared with an appropriate wargame to simulate what would happen if an unrelated coronavirus would start spreading. Give it a boring name like event 201. Since it's all out in the open it's clearly not a conspiracy.
Then have the world media present you as the Oracle of Delphi because you had such an accurate prediction.
Re: Pfizer Responds to Covid Gain of Function Research Claims
#9This is responding to an undercover video by the activists at Project Veritas. They have released a video that appears to show a Pfizer director saying they are mutating new COVID lines for vaccine purposes.
For context, this is Project Veritas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Veritas
> Project Veritas is an American far-right activist group founded by James O'Keefe in 2010. The group produces deceptively edited videos of its undercover operations, which use secret recordings in an effort to discredit mainstream media organizations and progressive groups. Project Veritas also uses entrapment to generate bad publicity for its targets, and has propagated disinformation and conspiracy theories in its videos and operations.
Regardless of what you may think of the recordings themselves, the presentation and editing is often extremely misleading and credentials of the recorded individuals are often overstated to help create a narrative.
Re: Pfizer Responds to Covid Gain of Function Research Claims
#10„In a limited number of cases when a full virus does not contain any known gain of function mutations, such virus may be engineered to enable the assessment of antiviral activity in cells.“ via https://nitter.net/Tim_Roehn/status/1619281947741806592#m so they practice gain of function. and i bet they don't do that in the us. wasn't there some interesting back and forth about ominous us led bio engineering labs in the…
"It is important to note that these studies are required by U.S. and global regulators for all antiviral products" - i think this bit of the paragraph you highlighted changes the meaning somewhat.