An AI lawyer was set to argue in court – real lawyers shut it down
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Re: An AI lawyer was set to argue in court – real lawyers shut it down
#2I don't want Dr. iPad Joe who spent a grand total of 15 minutes learning how to use ChatGPT making legal, medical, engineering, or other important decisions for me or the place I live.
Now, I am of course free to use ChatGPT as a private person to "come up with my own legal arguments", but should a company be allowed to sell me a ChatGPT lawyer? No. They shouldn't be allowed to sell me unlabelled asbestos products either.
I know we all hate regulations, but some of them exist for a reason, and the reason is Bad Shit happened before we had regulations.
Re: An AI lawyer was set to argue in court – real lawyers shut it down
#3In the face of impending AI changes, software engineers build start ups and try to adapt hoping to capture some relevance.
In the face of impending AI changes, lawyers threaten litigation.
Re: An AI lawyer was set to argue in court – real lawyers shut it down
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#5You can't just start practicing law without a license, you'll ruin somebody's life; they'll assume you, or the computer, knows what is going on, when in fact you just want Free Dollars. I don't want Dr. iPad Joe who spent a grand total of 15 minutes learning how to use ChatGPT making legal, medical, engineering, or other important decisions for me or the place I live. Now, I am of course free to use ChatGPT as a priv…
Re: An AI lawyer was set to argue in court – real lawyers shut it down
#6You can't just start practicing law without a license, you'll ruin somebody's life; they'll assume you, or the computer, knows what is going on, when in fact you just want Free Dollars. I don't want Dr. iPad Joe who spent a grand total of 15 minutes learning how to use ChatGPT making legal, medical, engineering, or other important decisions for me or the place I live. Now, I am of course free to use ChatGPT as a priv…
Re: An AI lawyer was set to argue in court – real lawyers shut it down
#7You can't just start practicing law without a license, you'll ruin somebody's life; they'll assume you, or the computer, knows what is going on, when in fact you just want Free Dollars. I don't want Dr. iPad Joe who spent a grand total of 15 minutes learning how to use ChatGPT making legal, medical, engineering, or other important decisions for me or the place I live. Now, I am of course free to use ChatGPT as a priv…
How does failing to get rid of a traffic ticket ruin someone's life?
It's about putting the first wedge in.
Re: An AI lawyer was set to argue in court – real lawyers shut it down
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
How does failing to get rid of a traffic ticket ruin someone's life?
Today, parking ticket. Tomorrow, DUI. Next week, a murder case. It's about putting the first wedge in.
Re: An AI lawyer was set to argue in court – real lawyers shut it down
#9If ChatGPT did something wrong, that lawyer would still be on the hook for deciding to continue using this tool so responsibility/liability/authenticity is not a problem.
I get that they want to make some kind of subscription service to replace lawyers with AI (a terribly dystopian idea in my opinion, as only the rich would then have access to actual lawyers) but just like Tesla needs someone in the drivers seat to overrule the occasional phantom breaking and swerving, you need an actual lawyer for your proof of concept cases if you're going to go AI in a new area.
You'd also need a fast typist to feed the record into ChatGPT of course, because you can't just record lawsuits, but anyone with a steno keyboard should be able to keep up with a court room.
Re: An AI lawyer was set to argue in court – real lawyers shut it down
#10You can't just start practicing law without a license, you'll ruin somebody's life; they'll assume you, or the computer, knows what is going on, when in fact you just want Free Dollars. I don't want Dr. iPad Joe who spent a grand total of 15 minutes learning how to use ChatGPT making legal, medical, engineering, or other important decisions for me or the place I live. Now, I am of course free to use ChatGPT as a priv…
How does failing to get rid of a traffic ticket ruin someone's life?
ChatGPT: "Your honor, that couldn't have been me, as I drive a red Mustang, not a blue minivan, and was in Nepal climbing a mountain at the time.."
Defendant: "Your honor, that couldn't have been my, as I drive a red Mustang, not a blue minivan, and was in Nepal climbing a mountain at the time."
Prosecutor: "Um, this photo clearly shows your face in this blue minivan, and there's no evidence you've been to Nepal."
Judge: "I'm holding you in contempt of court, and sentence you to 7 days in jail for perjury."
8I don't think the argument is that AI is never allowed to represent someone in court; just that before it happens, a sufficient amount of vetting must be done. At a bare minimum, the legal AI needs to know not to lead the defendant to perjure themselves.