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Re: Bitwarden Acquires Passwordless.dev

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Could someone clarify what the relationship between passkeys and WebAuthn is? Is it that Passkey is the Apple, Google, Microsoft implementation (commercialization?) of WebAuthn? If so, does it add anything on top of WebAuthn that makes it differ in some fundamental way? Also, are passkeys how WebAuthn is most commonly actually used in practice? Apologies for the noob questions.

Re: Bitwarden Acquires Passwordless.dev

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As a recent convert to Bitwarden from LastPass, I start to get a bit nervous when I see acquisitions happening. LastPass getting acquired was the beginning of the end for it, IMO, before stagnating into criminal negligence.

Granted this is Bitwarden acquiring rather than being acquired, but I still worry it leads to a trend of building "portfolio value" rather than focusing on the product. I sincerely hope I'm wrong.

Re: Bitwarden Acquires Passwordless.dev

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Slightly offtopic, but I really find the Bitwarden Clients to be lacking in the feature department. I switched to Bitwarden a few month ago and the client has evolved (for me) ever since.

There are a few basic features missing, such as that if I search for something I wrote in the notes of password, that the client shows the according password. I get that the open-source model implies that everyone can contribute and fix this issue, but if I look at the repo and see 108 open PRs, I don't even bother to check if that's a feature that would be easy to add.

Re: Bitwarden Acquires Passwordless.dev

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As a recent convert to Bitwarden from LastPass, I start to get a bit nervous when I see acquisitions happening. LastPass getting acquired was the beginning of the end for it, IMO, before stagnating into criminal negligence. Granted this is Bitwarden acquiring rather than being acquired, but I still worry it leads to a trend of building "portfolio value" rather than focusing on the product. I sincerely hope I'm wrong.

I had a similar reaction. Acquisitions can be a signal that there's a go-to-market strategy being pursued.

Re: Bitwarden Acquires Passwordless.dev

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Could someone clarify what the relationship between passkeys and WebAuthn is? Is it that Passkey is the Apple, Google, Microsoft implementation (commercialization?) of WebAuthn? If so, does it add anything on top of WebAuthn that makes it differ in some fundamental way? Also, are passkeys how WebAuthn is most commonly actually used in practice? Apologies for the noob questions.

Passkeys is what Apple decided to call their implementation and the benefits are within their ecosystem, such as storing these in your Keychain to be used on multiple devices.

This page is a good starter:

https://developer.apple.com/passkeys/

Re: Bitwarden Acquires Passwordless.dev

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Could someone clarify what the relationship between passkeys and WebAuthn is? Is it that Passkey is the Apple, Google, Microsoft implementation (commercialization?) of WebAuthn? If so, does it add anything on top of WebAuthn that makes it differ in some fundamental way? Also, are passkeys how WebAuthn is most commonly actually used in practice? Apologies for the noob questions.

Passkeys is what Apple decided to call their implementation and the benefits are within their ecosystem, such as storing these in your Keychain to be used on multiple devices. This page is a good starter: https://developer.apple.com/passkeys/

Ah thanks, I kept ending up on Google's pages. I don't search good:P

Re: Bitwarden Acquires Passwordless.dev

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Could someone clarify what the relationship between passkeys and WebAuthn is? Is it that Passkey is the Apple, Google, Microsoft implementation (commercialization?) of WebAuthn? If so, does it add anything on top of WebAuthn that makes it differ in some fundamental way? Also, are passkeys how WebAuthn is most commonly actually used in practice? Apologies for the noob questions.

Passkeys are effectively software security keys, stored in whatever keychain you're using (Chrome or iCloud Keychain or otherwise); for the major implementations you're hearing about, the goal of their implementation is improving the UX by syncing your passkeys between devices, so as long as you can access your passkey keychain, you won't have to worry about losing your security key for that website.

As for how "passwordless" plays into this, Passkeys are generally better than passwords simply because it's PGP instead of a shared secret you send to the website, so even if a website is compromised, there's effectively 0 way the compromised database will enable password stuffing attacks on other websites.

Another cool thing is QR codes via caBLE (cloud assisted BLE), you can scan a QR code on a browser (on a bluetooth-enabled computer) to have your phone connect to that computer and present its passkey to the computer, without needing to actually plug in your device to the computer. This is not strictly a passkey thing, it just aids in making them usable.

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