English as She Is Spoke (1884) [pdf]
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Re: English as She Is Spoke (1884) [pdf]
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#3On Standard Ebooks with an appropriate cover image:
https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/pedro-carolino_jose-da-fon...
Re: English as She Is Spoke (1884) [pdf]
#4From the Wikipedia:
> O novo guia da conversação em portuguez e inglez, commonly known by the name English as She Is Spoke, is a 19th-century book written by Pedro Carolino, with some editions crediting José da Fonseca as a co-author. It was intended as a Portuguese–English conversational guide or phrase book. However, because the "English" translations provided are usually inaccurate or unidiomatic, it is regarded as a classic source of unintentional humour in translation.
> The humour largely arises from Carolino's indiscriminate use of literal translation, which has led to many idiomatic expressions being translated ineptly. For example, Carolino translates the Portuguese phrase chover a cântaros as "raining in jars", when an analogous English idiom is available in the form of "raining buckets".
> It is widely believed that Carolino could not speak English and that a French–English dictionary was used to translate an earlier Portuguese–French phrase book, …
Re: English as She Is Spoke (1884) [pdf]
#5Allegedly this inspired the Monty Python sketch about the Hungarian-English phrase book.
Re: English as She Is Spoke (1884) [pdf]
#6What's remarkable is how good machine translation (DeepL, Google Translate) has become at handling idiomatic expressions in recent years. Still not perfect, of course (there's still the odd clanger), but anyone trying to do the same task today would fare considerably better.
Re: English as She Is Spoke (1884) [pdf]
#7Allegedly this inspired the Monty Python sketch about the Hungarian-English phrase book.
The sketch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1Sw0PDgHU4
Re: English as She Is Spoke (1884) [pdf]
#8What's remarkable is how good machine translation (DeepL, Google Translate) has become at handling idiomatic expressions in recent years. Still not perfect, of course (there's still the odd clanger), but anyone trying to do the same task today would fare considerably better.
I disagree. I can't speak for Deepl, but Google remains terrible at idioms. Give the phrase "There's mud all over the shop." a try.
Re: English as She Is Spoke (1884) [pdf]
#9Heaven forbid I disagree with Mark Twain, but star war: backstroke of the west[0] is another great example in this uh genre.
[0]: https://web.archive.org/web/20170115091456/http://winterson....
Re: English as She Is Spoke (1884) [pdf]
#10What's remarkable is how good machine translation (DeepL, Google Translate) has become at handling idiomatic expressions in recent years. Still not perfect, of course (there's still the odd clanger), but anyone trying to do the same task today would fare considerably better.
I disagree. I can't speak for Deepl, but Google remains terrible at idioms. Give the phrase "There's mud all over the shop." a try.
What if you actually want to literally translate "There's mud all over the shop"?