British empire killed 165M Indians in 40 years: How colonialism inspired fascism
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#2British colonialism killed 100M Indians in 40 years - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33978278 - Dec 2022 (45 comments)
British colonialism killed 100M Indians - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33875569 - Dec 2022 (3 comments)
Re: British empire killed 165M Indians in 40 years: How colonialism inspired fascism
#3Somewhat ironically the current British Prime Minister who is of Indian descent recently proposed bringing in laws so that anyone expressing “anti-nationalist” views could be referred to Prevent, the government’s anti-radicalisation scheme.
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#4Britain is still deeply racist to this day.
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#5I am beginning to understand the origins on the current trend in India of being independent from Western policies and wanting to determine its own destiny. Initially, I was quite surprised to see that, given the enormous pressure to conform, but I guess things like this may explain Indian government's reluctance to go along. Also, perhaps the long-standing support for its not so friendly neighbor.
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#6Britain is still deeply racist to this day.
Compared to where?
I have no dog in this fight. I'm not British. I don't live in Britain.
I am certain that racism exists in Britain. But I don't think I've been anywhere that racism doesn't exist. More to the point, I don't think I've been anywhere with less racism than Britain. I've been to every continent but South America and Antartica. Perhaps Brazil is the utopian ideal you're using as a baseline? I saw racism in India, in China, in Canada and the US, and in my native Ireland.
There isn't much racism in Ireland, but then again, there aren't that many visible minorities, and until recently we've been blaming all our ills on Britain... Oh, bother. Well, apart from the Troubles, Cromwell, the Famine, what has Britain ever done to us?
Pythonic (half-)witticisms aside, I don't think your statement is useful. There are racists in Britain, but my own anecdata is that it's mostly a place with relatively good integration, certainly better than what I saw in the US.
Finally, take a look at the current cabinet. They may be a shower of haters, second-raters, I'll-pay-for-it-laters and the like (Braverman is my current least favorite, but only because Priti Patel on a break getting her venom glands upgraded, but they certainly cover a fair gamut of skin colors. (Though no one of East Asian decent so far as I know)
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#7Britain is still deeply racist to this day.
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#8Can fascism produce colonialism tomorrow? I mean just look at the defense of Ukraine. The west has had a whole year and not even been able to raise one Brigade worth of troops.
Hypothetically if Ukraine collapses anything is possible.
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#9I once read a very cynical take that the Nazis had not done anything particularly novel; their big mistake lay in doing that sort of thing to melanin-deprived people.
(that said, I don't think the brits went in for obviously direct genocides; they seem to have been more the sort who would choose indirectly genocidal policies, eg encouraging opiate addiction or buying up all the potatoes?)
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#10So the 100M figure comes from an excess deaths analysis. Let’s assume it’s accurate. It’s an indirect indicator. What was the direct mechanism that caused all those deaths?