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Former top Twitter official forced to leave home due to threats

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Re: Former top Twitter official forced to leave home due to threats

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I don't like the witch hunt culture no matter which direction it goes. This whole situation is cringe.

However, I'm not convinced by the popular argument explaining why Musk is "wrong" - that he has a "responsibility" when speaking to his 120 million followers that is not shared by anyone he mentions in his speech. This seems arbitrarily restrictive at first glance, because it means anyone can speak about Musk, but he can't defend himself by speaking about them.

For example, someone could join a panel on the NYT to accuse Musk of cultivating hate speech. They could nudge a political effort to manufacture outrage as part of a campaign to persuade Apple and Google to remove Twitter from the app store.

Shouldn't Musk be able to respond to those claims with his own megaphone? He's being personally attacked and has the moral right to defend himself - including by attacking the credibility of his opponent.

You can think he's tasteless or classless or even liable to be sued for defamation. But the premise of the argument shouldn't be that he has some extra responsibility not shared by anyone else. He's not an elected official or a head of state. He has the same responsibilities and risk of consequence that anyone else has, relative to the scale where he chooses to operate.

Re: Former top Twitter official forced to leave home due to threats

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He didn't publish it. He tweeted a link to a news article about a court case, in which it was argued that a student-teacher relationship was unethical even though the student was over 18 (the court leaned toward yes, because teachers have power over students while they're enrolled at a school).

Would you want me to judge your character based on the headlines of news stories you submit to HN?

Re: Former top Twitter official forced to leave home due to threats

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He didn't publish it. He tweeted a link to a news article about a court case, in which it was argued that a student-teacher relationship was unethical even though the student was over 18 (the court leaned toward yes, because teachers have power over students while they're enrolled at a school). Would you want me to judge your character based on the headlines of news stories you submit to HN?

If I was debating or even considering the ethics of sex with a student I would expect people to get upset, yes. It would require a severe disconnect from reality for me to think that they wouldn’t.

Re: Former top Twitter official forced to leave home due to threats

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I don't like the witch hunt culture no matter which direction it goes. This whole situation is cringe. However, I'm not convinced by the popular argument explaining why Musk is "wrong" - that he has a "responsibility" when speaking to his 120 million followers that is not shared by anyone he mentions in his speech. This seems arbitrarily restrictive at first glance, because it means anyone can speak about Musk, but h…

Instead of cooking up hypothetical circumstances in which Musk is a hapless victim, how about we examine the actual situation where he and others are insinuating that this Roth guy was promoting pedophilia (he wasn't), and the fact that Twitter isn't consistently removing obvious and explicit death threats.

Edit: for context, here's a collection of threat examples from a fairly well-known researcher who regularly catalogs botnets and fake follower accumulation on Twitter: https://twitter.com/conspirator0/status/1601681990071521281

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