The End of High-School English
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The End of High-School English
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#2In high school we could pay the smart kid or someone’s older sibling to write a paper for you.
ChatGPT is amazing but getting someone else to do your work is not novel.
I’m also quite certain schools will implement an AI-detection mechanism, and wouldn’t be surprised if OpenAI were to expose that as a product offering.
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#3In high school we could pay the smart kid or someone’s older sibling to write a paper for you. ChatGPT is amazing but getting someone else to do your work is not novel. I’m also quite certain schools will implement an AI-detection mechanism, and wouldn’t be surprised if OpenAI were to expose that as a product offering.
I think you might be coming from a different socioeconomic perspective. The legions of C and B students would suggest that most kids do not have the means to buy someone else’s work.
As for the viability of an ai detector, if a human can’t recognize the difference in a fundamentally human dataset (language) there is no reason to suspect ML would be better suited to it. A watermarking scheme would be more effective.
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#4In high school we could pay the smart kid or someone’s older sibling to write a paper for you. ChatGPT is amazing but getting someone else to do your work is not novel. I’m also quite certain schools will implement an AI-detection mechanism, and wouldn’t be surprised if OpenAI were to expose that as a product offering.
Instead of engaging in a technological arms race perhaps the solution is to give more emphasise to writing in class:
Make the pupils read, study, etc. then they get x hours in class to write their paper with only pen and paper allowed.
You can also do both and then compare. If what's produced at home is very different from what's produced in class...
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#5In high school we could pay the smart kid or someone’s older sibling to write a paper for you. ChatGPT is amazing but getting someone else to do your work is not novel. I’m also quite certain schools will implement an AI-detection mechanism, and wouldn’t be surprised if OpenAI were to expose that as a product offering.
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#6In high school we could pay the smart kid or someone’s older sibling to write a paper for you. ChatGPT is amazing but getting someone else to do your work is not novel. I’m also quite certain schools will implement an AI-detection mechanism, and wouldn’t be surprised if OpenAI were to expose that as a product offering.
Instead of engaging in a technological arms race perhaps the solution is to give more emphasise to writing in class: Make the pupils read, study, etc. then they get x hours in class to write their paper with only pen and paper allowed. You can also do both and then compare. If what's produced at home is very different from what's produced in class...
But haven’t we solved this in the quant side? Let them cheat all they want then fail the midterm, which has proctors watching like hawks.
(Or if you can assemble a formula sheet and pull a b after copying answers from the back of the textbook then you earned it)
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#7In high school we could pay the smart kid or someone’s older sibling to write a paper for you. ChatGPT is amazing but getting someone else to do your work is not novel. I’m also quite certain schools will implement an AI-detection mechanism, and wouldn’t be surprised if OpenAI were to expose that as a product offering.
I think you might be coming from a different socioeconomic perspective. The legions of C and B students would suggest that most kids do not have the means to buy someone else’s work. As for the viability of an ai detector, if a human can’t recognize the difference in a fundamentally human dataset (language) there is no reason to suspect ML would be better suited to it. A watermarking scheme would be more effective.
I went to school in a lower income urban center. I think you underestimate the barter economy of lower income students in high schools. Money is not commonly used to trade. There are a lot of favors changing hands.
We used to trade bags of weed for student metro cards. Others trade lunch tickets for homework. I saw a student hand over their north face jacket and a cell phone to have someone else to take an AP exam for them. They later told their parents they were robbed on the way home.
As Jeff gold bloom would say: “life uhhh… finds a way.”
Re: watermarking, it’s exactly what I alluded to by “OpenAI May even expose this as a product.”
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#8I worry about the future generation of kids tryna talk lik dis all da time rn fr fr.
What’s the point of learning proper English when chatgpt can do your homework…
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#9ChatGPT has no implications for high-school English classes, if they are taught properly - ie, with the goal of teaching English literature and composition. If they're taught with the goal of assigning grades to students, then sure, ChatGPT could be a problem.
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#10Paywall: https://archive.ph/6Clhk