Iranian Officials Asking Venezuela for Asylum in Case of Regime Change
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Re: Iranian Officials Asking Venezuela for Asylum in Case of Regime Change
#2It's so weird to me how rare it is that the leaders of countries are executed by the population and to even call for that upsets people regardless of what their reign is like.
There's almost no incentive to be a good leader since if it all falls apart you'll just end up living luxuriously in another country.
Why is there such a high value placed on human life that ignores the impact that person had upon the world?
Feel free to down vote but also reply with something because I think we need to reconsider the inherent value placed on human life.
Re: Iranian Officials Asking Venezuela for Asylum in Case of Regime Change
#3Huh? Is... Venezuela... particularly Islamic? Maybe Kosovo would be a better cultural fit.
Re: Iranian Officials Asking Venezuela for Asylum in Case of Regime Change
#4Huh? Is... Venezuela... particularly Islamic? Maybe Kosovo would be a better cultural fit.
If I was an Iranian trying to flee a regime change, I’d probably pick the western-hostile Venezuela over the NATO friendly Kosovo.
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#5Huh? Is... Venezuela... particularly Islamic? Maybe Kosovo would be a better cultural fit.
Venezuela gives more cover. Larger, gives less shits. There are African options too.
Re: Iranian Officials Asking Venezuela for Asylum in Case of Regime Change
#6It's so weird to me how rare it is that the leaders of countries are executed by the population and to even call for that upsets people regardless of what their reign is like. There's almost no incentive to be a good leader since if it all falls apart you'll just end up living luxuriously in another country. Why is there such a high value placed on human life that ignores the impact that person had upon the world? Fe…
Someone told me in a bar on K Street the thing Vladimir Putin fears most is being hung from a gas station like Mussolinu, and I suspect that goes for all totalitarians.
What scares me is I've met people like that at home in the USA.
There is a quote by a KGB defector which I lost the cite for.
"There is nowhere to defect to."
They can live in luxury, but you cannot buy respect.
Folks are allowed to show you, in small ways that you are forever unwelcome in civil society. They should do exactly that to folks who think they can try to get on a helicopter with a laptop bag full of egold like cyberpunk Ceaușescus that at best we will count the days until we can cheer their deaths if we cannot do the needful ourselves due to laws or norms.
Re: Iranian Officials Asking Venezuela for Asylum in Case of Regime Change
#7It's so weird to me how rare it is that the leaders of countries are executed by the population and to even call for that upsets people regardless of what their reign is like. There's almost no incentive to be a good leader since if it all falls apart you'll just end up living luxuriously in another country. Why is there such a high value placed on human life that ignores the impact that person had upon the world? Fe…
Someone told me in a bar on K Street the thing Vladimir Putin fears most is being hung from a gas station like Mussolinu, and I suspect that goes for all totalitarians. What scares me is I've met people like that at home in the USA. There is a quote by a KGB defector which I lost the cite for. "There is nowhere to defect to." They can live in luxury, but you cannot buy respect. Folks are allowed to show you, in small…
> They can live in luxury, but you cannot buy respect. Folks are allowed to show you, in small ways that you are forever unwelcome in civil society.
Ah, what wouldn't I give to feel forever unwelcome in small ways but have another country's passport/bank account/etc. Heartwarming to know it's easier for those who are running my (on paper) country into mud. Guess I'll keep running around the sanctions I'm under because of them while they live in luxury and know they will be about to keep doing it no matter what goes down.
I don't think they and their helicopters should be allowed in and their funny money should not convert as it degrades democracy.
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#8It's so weird to me how rare it is that the leaders of countries are executed by the population and to even call for that upsets people regardless of what their reign is like. There's almost no incentive to be a good leader since if it all falls apart you'll just end up living luxuriously in another country. Why is there such a high value placed on human life that ignores the impact that person had upon the world? Fe…
You want leaders to be able to give up. If staying in power is the only thing seperating a leader from the angry mob, they will fight the hopeless fight until the bitter end.
If they have the option if fleeing to another country, then at some point they could decide its in their best interest to just give up.
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#9It's so weird to me how rare it is that the leaders of countries are executed by the population and to even call for that upsets people regardless of what their reign is like. There's almost no incentive to be a good leader since if it all falls apart you'll just end up living luxuriously in another country. Why is there such a high value placed on human life that ignores the impact that person had upon the world? Fe…
The idea is that if the leader can live luxuriously in another country, they have an incentive to stop being a bad leader and retire in luxury already.
If bad leaders got executed, then the incentive for bad leaders would be to stay in power no matter the cost.
The reason dictatorships turn murderous when they lose popularity is that the dictator knows they will be killed if the opposition wins, so they have no choice but to go all out and do unto the opposition before they do it to him.
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#10Huh? Is... Venezuela... particularly Islamic? Maybe Kosovo would be a better cultural fit.
Kosovo-Albanians (and Ukrainians) are probably the most pro-American people in the world right now.
Just because Kosovo is Muslim-majority does not mean they're friendly to the Iranian regime.