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In Solidarity with Library Genesis and Sci-Hub (2015)

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Re: In Solidarity with Library Genesis and Sci-Hub (2015)

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Post by frollo »

dang wrote: post #2

Related: In Solidarity with Library Genesis and Sci-Hub (2015) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33369378 - Oct 2022 (1 comment) In Solidarity with Library Genesis and Sci-Hub - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11009809 - Feb 2016 (25 comments)

To be honest, I expected a bigger discussion on this topic.

Re: In Solidarity with Library Genesis and Sci-Hub (2015)

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Post by chrisbaker98 »

cammikebrown wrote: post #4
faloppad wrote: post #3

Is there any at to support this?

If you have available storage space, keep a backup of information that you find to be useful or important.

Does that support libgenesis or scihub? Sounds like it only supports yourself in case they get taken down.

Re: In Solidarity with Library Genesis and Sci-Hub (2015)

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Post by codetrotter »

frollo wrote: post #5
dang wrote: post #2

Related: In Solidarity with Library Genesis and Sci-Hub (2015) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33369378 - Oct 2022 (1 comment) In Solidarity with Library Genesis and Sci-Hub - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11009809 - Feb 2016 (25 comments)

To be honest, I expected a bigger discussion on this topic.

There are some discussions about libgen and sci-hub with a lot more comments, where you also find broad support of libgen and sci-hub in the comments, such as for example:

Archivists Are Trying to Make Sure LibGen Never Goes Down - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21692222 - Dec 2019 (257 comments)

Indian academics throw weight behind Sci-Hub and LibGen in landmark case - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29366621 - Nov 2021 (89 comments)

Today Sci-Hub is 10 years old. I'll publish 2M new articles to celebrate - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28421477 - Sept 2021 (161 comments)

Sci-Hub: Removing barriers in the way of science (sci-hub.io) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11093779 - Feb 2016 (217 comments)

Re: In Solidarity with Library Genesis and Sci-Hub (2015)

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Post by RupertEisenhart »

This google search[0] will provide a list of interesting papers about piracy.

They seem generally to support what I think is something like the majority consensus here:

- piracy does some harm to sales, especially of new books, but can increase consumer knowledge and therefor increase diversity of sales and sales of older works: "effect of piracy is heterogeneous: piracy decreased the legitimate sales of ongoing comics, whereas increased the legitimate sales of completed comics. The latter result is interpreted as follows: piracy reminds consumers of past comics and stimulates sales in that market." [1]

- piracy does considerable harm to large institutes (but largely seen as a good thing)

- for sales, a lot of the lost revenue seems to be made up for "increases the demand for complements to protected works, raising, for instance, the demand for concerts and concert prices"

- that DRM creates fake scarcity where none should exist-- distribution costs are now zero, we shouldn't pretend that we still need to pay so much for books and music

- how to make sure artists still have a revenue stream needed to exist is definitely still a problem, but it is not one that is solved by crushing pirate libraries

Also further discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33460970 (517 comments, recent)

And, to the person down below who wants to help out, check out the further discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=annas-blog.org (>1000 comments over six submissions)

[0]: https://www.google.com/search?q=site:gwern.net+piracy

[1]: https://www.gwern.net/docs/economics/copyright/2019-tanaka.p...

[2]: https://www.gwern.net/docs/economics/copyright/2010-oberholz...

EDIT: formatting

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