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Elephants born without tusks in ‘evolutionary response’ to poachers (2021)

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Re: Elephants born without tusks in ‘evolutionary response’ to poachers (2021)

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Maybe I'm being a bit pedantic here, but being born without tusks is not in itself an "evolutionary response". Surviving without tusks and passing on those tuskless genes at a higher than previously normal rate is the actual evolutionary response.

Re: Elephants born without tusks in ‘evolutionary response’ to poachers (2021)

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post #2

Maybe I'm being a bit pedantic here, but being born without tusks is not in itself an "evolutionary response". Surviving without tusks and passing on those tuskless genes at a higher than previously normal rate is the actual evolutionary response.

You are not pedantic at all, the tittle sucks.

Re: Elephants born without tusks in ‘evolutionary response’ to poachers (2021)

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post #2

Maybe I'm being a bit pedantic here, but being born without tusks is not in itself an "evolutionary response". Surviving without tusks and passing on those tuskless genes at a higher than previously normal rate is the actual evolutionary response.

>> passing on those tuskless genes

aka being born without turks

Re: Elephants born without tusks in ‘evolutionary response’ to poachers (2021)

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post #2

Maybe I'm being a bit pedantic here, but being born without tusks is not in itself an "evolutionary response". Surviving without tusks and passing on those tuskless genes at a higher than previously normal rate is the actual evolutionary response.

>> passing on those tuskless genes aka being born without turks

Uh, no.

You haven't passed on any genes until you have fertil offspring. Being born is of course necessary, but far from sufficient.

Re: Elephants born without tusks in ‘evolutionary response’ to poachers (2021)

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post #2

Maybe I'm being a bit pedantic here, but being born without tusks is not in itself an "evolutionary response". Surviving without tusks and passing on those tuskless genes at a higher than previously normal rate is the actual evolutionary response.

You are being pendantic.

It's literally pressure from environment influencing evolution.

Or an evolutionary response.

Re: Elephants born without tusks in ‘evolutionary response’ to poachers (2021)

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post #3
post #2

Maybe I'm being a bit pedantic here, but being born without tusks is not in itself an "evolutionary response". Surviving without tusks and passing on those tuskless genes at a higher than previously normal rate is the actual evolutionary response.

You are not pedantic at all, the tittle sucks.

Typo… or freudian slip?

Re: Elephants born without tusks in ‘evolutionary response’ to poachers (2021)

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post #2

Maybe I'm being a bit pedantic here, but being born without tusks is not in itself an "evolutionary response". Surviving without tusks and passing on those tuskless genes at a higher than previously normal rate is the actual evolutionary response.

You are right. Evolution was a very poor choice of wording for variation. People then thinks evolution it has to be something good, when... it's just variation.

Same different: imaginary numbers. Not less number than others. There are plenty good ideas with a poor name: zero-knowledge encryption, and so on.

Re: Elephants born without tusks in ‘evolutionary response’ to poachers (2021)

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post #6
post #2

Maybe I'm being a bit pedantic here, but being born without tusks is not in itself an "evolutionary response". Surviving without tusks and passing on those tuskless genes at a higher than previously normal rate is the actual evolutionary response.

You are being pendantic. It's literally pressure from environment influencing evolution. Or an evolutionary response.

Te point OP is making is that being born without tusks is just a random chance, not a response to anything but as a result of this random chance, this elephant has a higher chance of living longer and having more babies resulting in higher chance of the "tuskless gene" being passed on to future generations. The distinction is important to understand evolution correctly. A lot of evolution deniers have a problem with the "intelligent response" aspect of it which doesn't actually exist.
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