After Delhi High Court ruling, Telegram discloses personal details of users
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Re: After Delhi High Court ruling, Telegram discloses personal details of users
#2Don't use messengers that ask for your phone number and aren't end-to-end encrypted.
Use services that store as little data as possible.
If data is stored, it can be given away and I would assume that it will be given away.
Telegram disguises itself as encrypted chat app, when it is actually just a regular centralized plaintext messenger that has an encryption feature that nobody uses.
Re: After Delhi High Court ruling, Telegram discloses personal details of users
#3Don't use messengers that ask for your phone number and aren't end-to-end encrypted. Use services that store as little data as possible. If data is stored, it can be given away and I would assume that it will be given away. Telegram disguises itself as encrypted chat app, when it is actually just a regular centralized plaintext messenger that has an encryption feature that nobody uses.
> Don't use messengers that ask for your phone number and aren't end-to-end encrypted.
Don't use messengers that ask for your phone number. Period.
Re: After Delhi High Court ruling, Telegram discloses personal details of users
#4Don't use messengers that ask for your phone number and aren't end-to-end encrypted. Use services that store as little data as possible. If data is stored, it can be given away and I would assume that it will be given away. Telegram disguises itself as encrypted chat app, when it is actually just a regular centralized plaintext messenger that has an encryption feature that nobody uses.
> Telegram disguises itself as encrypted chat app
Where does it do this?
Re: After Delhi High Court ruling, Telegram discloses personal details of users
#5Don't use messengers that ask for your phone number and aren't end-to-end encrypted. Use services that store as little data as possible. If data is stored, it can be given away and I would assume that it will be given away. Telegram disguises itself as encrypted chat app, when it is actually just a regular centralized plaintext messenger that has an encryption feature that nobody uses.
> Don't use messengers that ask for your phone number and aren't end-to-end encrypted. Don't use messengers that ask for your phone number. Period.
I sympathize with the sentiment, but the vast majority of my contacts already use other messaging systems that are identified by phone number such as SMS and WhatsApp—they don’t even use email, at least not for “text messaging”‐like things. In practice I’ve found that Signal has been the most successful privacy‐respecting messenger that my friends communicate with, which I attribute in large part to its policy of populating contacts lists by phone number, as well as its fad‐chasing features like stickers and GIF search.
Re: After Delhi High Court ruling, Telegram discloses personal details of users
#6Don't use messengers that ask for your phone number and aren't end-to-end encrypted. Use services that store as little data as possible. If data is stored, it can be given away and I would assume that it will be given away. Telegram disguises itself as encrypted chat app, when it is actually just a regular centralized plaintext messenger that has an encryption feature that nobody uses.
> Telegram disguises itself as encrypted chat app Where does it do this?
Re: After Delhi High Court ruling, Telegram discloses personal details of users
#7Don't use messengers that ask for your phone number and aren't end-to-end encrypted. Use services that store as little data as possible. If data is stored, it can be given away and I would assume that it will be given away. Telegram disguises itself as encrypted chat app, when it is actually just a regular centralized plaintext messenger that has an encryption feature that nobody uses.
TLDR don't use Telegram and Signal as some "alternatives"
Use Matrix clients (Element, Fluffy chat) or Session, Briar (no (video)calls), Delta (no (video)calls), Jami, not recommending Threema because they can tie you through payment and it's centralized
Here simple chart to see what to use and not use (use translate feature):
Re: After Delhi High Court ruling, Telegram discloses personal details of users
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Telegram disguises itself as encrypted chat app Where does it do this?
https://telegram.org/ > Private > Telegram messages are heavily encrypted and can self-destruct.
It doesn't claim that it's immune to requests from authorities, as far as I can see.
Re: After Delhi High Court ruling, Telegram discloses personal details of users
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://telegram.org/ > Private > Telegram messages are heavily encrypted and can self-destruct.
It doesn't claim that it's immune to requests from authorities, as far as I can see.
> It doesn't claim that it's immune to requests from authorities
I did not claim that.
When I wrote:
> Telegram disguises itself as encrypted chat app
I meant exactly that.
Re: After Delhi High Court ruling, Telegram discloses personal details of users
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Don't use messengers that ask for your phone number and aren't end-to-end encrypted. Don't use messengers that ask for your phone number. Period.
I sympathize with the sentiment, but the vast majority of my contacts already use other messaging systems that are identified by phone number such as SMS and WhatsApp—they don’t even use email, at least not for “text messaging”‐like things. In practice I’ve found that Signal has been the most successful privacy‐respecting messenger that my friends communicate with, which I attribute in large part to its policy of pop…
"Network effects" is an euphemism for "peer pressure".