Keep the Internet free and open (2012)
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Keep the Internet free and open (2012)
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Re: Keep the Internet free and open (2012)
#2O Google
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#3Vint Cerf... drinking his own cool aid. Pure propaganda. Centrality can never do what he said. Using a centralized system in a decentralized and free way is bad systems strategy. Why not design for what we actually want rather than try to repurpose a system voted-up artificially by the US Department of Defense?
But we hacked ourselves. I still wonder what the world would be today if we had RINA from the start. Then even one word of that could be true:
"Our protocols were designed to make the networks of the Internet non-proprietary and interoperable. They avoided “lock-in,” and allowed for contributions from many sources. This openness is why the Internet creates so much value today. Because it is borderless and belongs to everyone, it has brought unprecedented freedoms to billions of people worldwide: the freedom to create and innovate, to organize and influence, to speak and be heard."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recursive_Internetwork_Archite...
Re: Keep the Internet free and open (2012)
#4Vint Cerf was right. The internet is dead. What we have now is the splinternet, where a lot of countries have giant Galapagos intranets.
We can all thank China and Cisco with the innovation of The Great Firewall for this
Re: Keep the Internet free and open (2012)
#5 Discussed at the time:
Keep the Internet free and open - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4863009 - Dec 2012 (18 comments)
Re: Keep the Internet free and open (2012)
#6Vint Cerf was right. The internet is dead. What we have now is the splinternet, where a lot of countries have giant Galapagos intranets. We can all thank China and Cisco with the innovation of The Great Firewall for this
> We can all thank China and Cisco with the innovation of The Great Firewall for this
So large Western corporations consolidating the majority of the Internet use in their hands, and then censoring/controlling it through algorithms is ok.
Horrible when governments do any kind of regulation/control. All ok if its done by unaccountable private tyrants for profit...
Re: Keep the Internet free and open (2012)
#7Vint Cerf was right. The internet is dead. What we have now is the splinternet, where a lot of countries have giant Galapagos intranets. We can all thank China and Cisco with the innovation of The Great Firewall for this
> We can all thank China and Cisco with the innovation of The Great Firewall for this So large Western corporations consolidating the majority of the Internet use in their hands, and then censoring/controlling it through algorithms is ok. Horrible when governments do any kind of regulation/control. All ok if its done by unaccountable private tyrants for profit...
I read chaostheory's post several times and can't find a way to read it that looks like they're endorsing corporate centralization. In fact, there's no commentary on it at all.
Re: Keep the Internet free and open (2012)
#8Vint Cerf... drinking his own cool aid. Pure propaganda. Centrality can never do what he said. Using a centralized system in a decentralized and free way is bad systems strategy. Why not design for what we actually want rather than try to repurpose a system voted-up artificially by the US Department of Defense? But we hacked ourselves. I still wonder what the world would be today if we had RINA from the start. Then e…
Dare I bring a space cash in to the convo but what do you think about a "decentralized internet" like the TRON project https://tron.network ?
Re: Keep the Internet free and open (2012)
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
> We can all thank China and Cisco with the innovation of The Great Firewall for this So large Western corporations consolidating the majority of the Internet use in their hands, and then censoring/controlling it through algorithms is ok. Horrible when governments do any kind of regulation/control. All ok if its done by unaccountable private tyrants for profit...
I read chaostheory's post several times and can't find a way to read it that looks like they're endorsing corporate centralization. In fact, there's no commentary on it at all.
They point blame but they don't mention Western hypocritical censorship.
Re: Keep the Internet free and open (2012)
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
I read chaostheory's post several times and can't find a way to read it that looks like they're endorsing corporate centralization. In fact, there's no commentary on it at all.
They point blame but they don't mention Western hypocritical censorship.
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