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Re: Tech Talent Is Flooding the Job Market

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No data to back up the headline? Anecdotally, sure there are a lot of layoffs, but what percentage of the total tech workforce is it? And how does the number of laid-off people compare to the number of existing open positions for devs?

According to this[1], there are 3.85mm tech jobs and 193,900 jobs added this year, so overall the industry grew. It reminds me of the people expecting house prices to fall 30% because interest rates went up a little -- there is still a ton of demand compared to the slightly increased supply on the market, so prices won't shift that much.

[1] https://www.computerworld.com/article/3542681/how-many-jobs-...

Re: Tech Talent Is Flooding the Job Market

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Same question I had before: where are the numbers?

Seems like some companies are hoping to get great talent on the cheap (and pieces like this are trying to fan the flame of reduced employee costs), but I don't believe most of these layoffs affected large numbers of software engineers.

Would love for some numbers regarding this, but until I see stats on number of now-available software engineers I don't see any reason to believe this piece.

Re: Tech Talent Is Flooding the Job Market

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For moral reasons, I don't want to hire someone who worked at Facebook. For business reasons, I don't want to hire someone who was one of the worst performers at Facebook.

I expect many of these candidates will be laughed out of the room during the negotiating stage for asking for $300k total comp. The good times are over!

Re: Tech Talent Is Flooding the Job Market

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For moral reasons, I don't want to hire someone who worked at Facebook. For business reasons, I don't want to hire someone who was one of the worst performers at Facebook. I expect many of these candidates will be laughed out of the room during the negotiating stage for asking for $300k total comp. The good times are over!

> For moral reasons, I don't want to hire someone who worked at Facebook.

No ethical consumption, etc.

Re: Tech Talent Is Flooding the Job Market

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post #6

For moral reasons, I don't want to hire someone who worked at Facebook. For business reasons, I don't want to hire someone who was one of the worst performers at Facebook. I expect many of these candidates will be laughed out of the room during the negotiating stage for asking for $300k total comp. The good times are over!

> For moral reasons, I don't want to hire someone who worked at Facebook. No ethical consumption, etc.

It's also giving these companies way too much credit to assume they managed to only lay off their worst performers

Re: Tech Talent Is Flooding the Job Market

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For moral reasons, I don't want to hire someone who worked at Facebook. For business reasons, I don't want to hire someone who was one of the worst performers at Facebook. I expect many of these candidates will be laughed out of the room during the negotiating stage for asking for $300k total comp. The good times are over!

I’m not sure why you’re celebrating that high paying jobs for workers are over.

Re: Tech Talent Is Flooding the Job Market

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For moral reasons, I don't want to hire someone who worked at Facebook. For business reasons, I don't want to hire someone who was one of the worst performers at Facebook. I expect many of these candidates will be laughed out of the room during the negotiating stage for asking for $300k total comp. The good times are over!

I’m not sure why you’re celebrating that high paying jobs for workers are over.

Because they never really existed in the first place, except for at a few major corporations that basically monopolized the labor market and forced a choice between morality or high pay.

Meanwhile, the workers who took those jobs deluded themselves into thinking they deserved those salaries based purely on merit, and that their salary would keep increasing throughout their career.

Re: Tech Talent Is Flooding the Job Market

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Software engineers looking for a job should consider the chip industry, which is not just about hardware engineers. Plenty of software engineer openings https://semiengineering.com/jobs/ and many are remote

Are you speaking from experience? Almost all of the jobs at the page you linked are either not in the U.S. or require hardware education or experience. Most are not remote. Could you please describe the actual steps and timeline for, say, a frontend or backend web developer without an engineering degree to transition into one of those jobs?
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