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I am tired of hearing banalities about remote working

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Re: I am tired of hearing banalities about remote working

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From the article's author:

>I am just coming back from a very intense company retirement with activities that helped me reach my limits

Yeah, no thanks, I don't want to "reach my limits" by being pressured into childish team building activities with random people from work I've never met IRL. Not my thing. I have my own groups of friends for that.

>Hei man, if you would see our slack channels, where hundreds of people share opinions, experiences and their pets’ photos, you would understand.

Is there something wrong with me if I don't care at all the about pet photos, and other non work related opinions and experiences of hundreds of people I don't personally know IRL and rarely get to meet? To me those slack channels are just noise that distract me from wrapping up my work sooner so I can go have fun. I have my own Signal and WhatsApp groups of people I actually know personally and care about.

>I can call them friends after seeing them just one time!

I don't think you know what true friendship is about. Last month I got a bad case of COVID, hurt myself seriously, and had to be taken to the hospital. I had 3 IRL friends who offered their help with my recovery on a daily basis. Would your new remote work colleague "friends" that you met once in a company retreat fly over from their countries and take care of you? Probably not. Work colleagues you only met once IRL aren't your true friends. They'll quickly forget about you after the retreat is over and focus on their IRL friends back home.

Lots of strong and loaded opinions on both sides in this article. I don't think one is more right than the other, just that each is working for a companies with different cultures, in industries where one is more modern, one is more traditional and so is their customer base, where one values physical interaction more for business success vs the other, so of course both approaches are not compatible, but that doesn't make one wrong or one right. I WFH so I get the author's PoV, but that's mostly applicable to his/our bubble. From my experience, an engineering or other more traditional company will value face to face interaction and handshake business deals more than web startups or SaaS companies, so his cheap shots at trying to out-smug the author of that LinkedIn post from his SW remote-work high-horse are missing the point completely and don't put him in a better light.

Re: I am tired of hearing banalities about remote working

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Is there an official party line that wfh is in every way for every person everywhere always better, and it’s best not to kick that hornet’s nest? Asking for a friend.

I feel the problem is that many people in healthy offices already have a productive relationship with WFH, and understand the inherent costs and benefits. But there exists a large group who work in inherently toxic environments with sociopathic management for whom WFH is an essential component towards stability and is also the first places trying to force them to be in person.

Re: I am tired of hearing banalities about remote working

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From the article's author: >I am just coming back from a very intense company retirement with activities that helped me reach my limits Yeah, no thanks, I don't want to "reach my limits" by being pressured into childish team building activities with random people from work I've never met IRL. Not my thing. I have my own groups of friends for that. >Hei man, if you would see our slack channels, where hundreds of peopl…

> Would your new remote work colleague "friends" that you met once in a company retreat fly over from their countries and take care of you? Probably not.

Who said you can only have IRL friends through work? It's possible to have interactions outside the work context and to make friends outside of work.

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