Ask HN: Is DRM on firefox another nail in the coffin of free internet?
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Ask HN: Is DRM on firefox another nail in the coffin of free internet?
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Re: Ask HN: Is DRM on firefox another nail in the coffin of free internet?
#2Yes. Mozilla didn't do anything and failed to stop it and just watched Google introduce it and Mozilla also followed suit at adding DRM into Firefox.
This 'free internet' is yet another myth and DRM is here to stay with the web being dominated by Chrome's widespread usage as it was previously done by Microsoft Internet Explorer.
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Re: Ask HN: Is DRM on firefox another nail in the coffin of free internet?
#6I think DRM for monthly subscriptions is fine. You pay X amount a month and you get access to the service while you pay and lose access if you stop paying. That's the deal you pay for, which is clear and obvious to anyone.
I don't think DRM is necessarily and it just seems like an unnecessary hassle, but unlike things that you actually bought a perpetual license to (DVDs, CDs, games, etc.) it's really not that big of a deal.
Re: Ask HN: Is DRM on firefox another nail in the coffin of free internet?
#7Yes. Mozilla didn't do anything and failed to stop it and just watched Google introduce it and Mozilla also followed suit at adding DRM into Firefox. This 'free internet' is yet another myth and DRM is here to stay with the web being dominated by Chrome's widespread usage as it was previously done by Microsoft Internet Explorer.
Without DRM support much less people would use firefox because they actually want to use the netflix and prime subscriptions.
As I haven’t seen other websites than such movie streaming sites using DRM, I don’t think it’s another mail in the coffin. It doesn’t actively hurt anyone, and it does not stop shows to be ripped and released on tpb. It’s just an alibi for movie makers.
So, what’s the fuss about it?
Re: Ask HN: Is DRM on firefox another nail in the coffin of free internet?
#8Yes. Mozilla didn't do anything and failed to stop it and just watched Google introduce it and Mozilla also followed suit at adding DRM into Firefox. This 'free internet' is yet another myth and DRM is here to stay with the web being dominated by Chrome's widespread usage as it was previously done by Microsoft Internet Explorer.
Those who were involved with the Mozilla open source project or the company in the years of ~2013-2014 will heavily disagree.
There was a strong and long debate about the pros and cons. One of the strongest argument against was this here, including interoperability. I believe Cory Doctorow has also written multiple articles against DRM. I agree that DRM is generally bad.
However, the arguments for implementing it were the following: at least two other browsers will adopt the tech and that will allow it (per W3C process) to graduate from a Candidate Recommendation to a full Recommendation, making it part of the web platform.
On top, what would it mean for marketshare if people had to install a second browser just for watching movies? Would the non technical users accept and understand this without switching to a browser that they’d consider "actually feature complete"?
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> there's an automated rule here that tries to punish discussion of this topic, since Internet censorship doesn't belong on Hacker News apparently.
There's no such automated rule, and internet censorship gets discussed on Hacker News extensively.
Would you please stop posting unsubstantive, low-quality, and flamebait comments? You've been doing it repeatedly, and we're trying for something else here. In fact, you've been doing it incessantly lately and if that keeps up we're going to have to ban you, regardless of how you feel about censorship.
Re: Ask HN: Is DRM on firefox another nail in the coffin of free internet?
#10Yes. Mozilla didn't do anything and failed to stop it and just watched Google introduce it and Mozilla also followed suit at adding DRM into Firefox. This 'free internet' is yet another myth and DRM is here to stay with the web being dominated by Chrome's widespread usage as it was previously done by Microsoft Internet Explorer.
Without DRM support much less people would use firefox because they actually want to use the netflix and prime subscriptions. As I haven’t seen other websites than such movie streaming sites using DRM, I don’t think it’s another mail in the coffin. It doesn’t actively hurt anyone, and it does not stop shows to be ripped and released on tpb. It’s just an alibi for movie makers. So, what’s the fuss about it?
It's really dumb, but that's not on the browsers that implement it, but on the websites that use it.
As you pointed out, content will still be ripped so, once again, this only serves to inconvenience the users. But browsers won't force you to use netflix & al. so it's up to the user to not use those sites.
If I'm gonna shout at firefox, the fact that they aren't first implementing CSS features that the internet has been waiting for forever is probably a better reason.