Google is forcing us to make our open source VoIP app worse
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Re: Google is forcing us to make our open source VoIP app worse
#2The power they have vs the responsibility they take is completely out of balance.
Re: Google is forcing us to make our open source VoIP app worse
#3This sort of thing is why I intend to never write a mobile app for Google/Apple/other devices.
Though as I never get around to writing my many desktop or web-based app ideas, maybe this isn't much of a problem for Google/Apple/other!
Re: Google is forcing us to make our open source VoIP app worse
#4The power they have vs the responsibility they take is completely out of balance.
LOL... I can see Apple developers saying something like this while theu write about it on their even more limited and lockdowned devices.
Re: Google is forcing us to make our open source VoIP app worse
#5This sort of thing is why I intend to never write a mobile app for Google/Apple/other devices. Though as I never get around to writing my many desktop or web-based app ideas, maybe this isn't much of a problem for Google/Apple/other!
Yeah. I bought a Mac, an iPad and an iPhone to do mobile development for ios. And then I realised how screwed up and exploitive the whole Apple ecosystem is for developers - they not only want us to pay them annually for the "privilege" of developing on their platform (even though we add value to their platform by creating software for it), but they also want to charge us a commission on each sale (with the bar that we can't tell our customers that the price is higher because of the "Apple Tax"). I decided not to support their platform. And after reading many tales of developers struggle with the illogical bureaucracy of the "app stores", I feel that I made the right decision.
I understand the Google ecosystem is similar, but slightly more bearable because Android allows side-loading. Waiting for the day when legislation / regulation upholds our consumer and computing rights to develop, install and run software on our own devices without ever needing permission from the device makers.
Re: Google is forcing us to make our open source VoIP app worse
#6This sort of thing is why I intend to never write a mobile app for Google/Apple/other devices. Though as I never get around to writing my many desktop or web-based app ideas, maybe this isn't much of a problem for Google/Apple/other!
Yeah. I bought a Mac, an iPad and an iPhone to do mobile development for ios. And then I realised how screwed up and exploitive the whole Apple ecosystem is for developers - they not only want us to pay them annually for the "privilege" of developing on their platform (even though we add value to their platform by creating software for it), but they also want to charge us a commission on each sale (with the bar that…
Never?
Unless you give up on NFC, banking apps and all those goodies.
Re: Google is forcing us to make our open source VoIP app worse
#7I'm not familiar with mobile app review process, would any change in code require a re-review/re-submit? If Google approved it as-is, could the developers add a few lines as an "update" and skip over the full review process?
Seems like the ruling is being made on what can be done with the current permissions, rather than what is being done. If that's the case, I sympathize with the devs but I think I support the position Google is taking there.
Off-topic comment: I use NoScript, and the entire text of the article renders for a half second before disappearing and for some inexplicable reason requiring JS to be enabled. If you can render it for that half second, why hide it? Why force me to use JS when you just proved that you can render it without?
Re: Google is forcing us to make our open source VoIP app worse
#8The power they have vs the responsibility they take is completely out of balance.
LOL... I can see Apple developers saying something like this while theu write about it on their even more limited and lockdowned devices.
You can agree that company X does Y thing wrong without deciding that you will make unlimited practical sacrifices in your life to support that position.
If I cut my relationship with every institution I have an ethical problem with, I'd be living in the middle of the woods in a hut.
Re: Google is forcing us to make our open source VoIP app worse
#9The mobile ecosystem has been built with the sole intent of milking users through targeted advertising, media consumption and unnecessary services subscription, so I find normal that corporations behind the OSes fight hard to maintain the platform as closed as possible (proprietary or seemingly open OSes, closed drivers, locked bootloaders etc). Their deepest fear is seeing their ecosystem conquered by Open Source, or for that matter any other kind of scenario (shareware, donationware, etc) in which users and developers are directly in contact and no middleman is necessary anymore.
Re: Google is forcing us to make our open source VoIP app worse
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Now that's just a lie and you know it. Is this legal?