Your website should work without JavaScript (2021)

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Post by nameequalsmain » Sat, Oct 15, 2022, 6:54 AM UTC

Your website should work without JavaScript (2021)
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Re: Your website should work without JavaScript (2021)

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Post by fexelein » Sat, Oct 15, 2022, 1:32 PM UTC

As recent as 2016 I was building some sites without any JavaScript. These weren’t small sites either. You can achieve a lot using some basic forms. It was quite fun

Re: Your website should work without JavaScript (2021)

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Post by dusted » Sat, Oct 15, 2022, 1:57 PM UTC

is it even a website if it does not work without javascript, https and websafe colors?

Re: Your website should work without JavaScript (2021)

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Post by encryptluks2 » Sat, Oct 15, 2022, 2:31 PM UTC

Once WASM becomes popular almost no website will work without JavaScript.

Re: Your website should work without JavaScript (2021)

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Post by mattl » Sat, Oct 15, 2022, 2:31 PM UTC

dusted wrote: post #3

is it even a website if it does not work without javascript, https and websafe colors?

I don’t think people worry about websafe colors anymore, as displays have moved beyond 256 colors

Re: Your website should work without JavaScript (2021)

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Post by mattl » Sat, Oct 15, 2022, 2:31 PM UTC

encryptluks2 wrote: post #4

Once WASM becomes popular almost no website will work without JavaScript.

Why would people use WASM for their HTML content?

Re: Your website should work without JavaScript (2021)

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Post by edfletcher_t137 » Sat, Oct 15, 2022, 2:32 PM UTC

fexelein wrote: post #2

As recent as 2016 I was building some sites without any JavaScript. These weren’t small sites either. You can achieve a lot using some basic forms. It was quite fun

"I Turned Off JavaScript for a Whole Week and It Was Glorious - Wired 2015"

It's not 2015 or 2016 anymore, not even close. We're the better part of a decade moved on. This is not a valid argument any longer. JavaScript is a critical part of the modern web experience. You may not like it, but that doesn't change the fact.

Re: Your website should work without JavaScript (2021)

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Post by mattl » Sat, Oct 15, 2022, 2:32 PM UTC

fexelein wrote: post #2

As recent as 2016 I was building some sites without any JavaScript. These weren’t small sites either. You can achieve a lot using some basic forms. It was quite fun

Forms and meta refresh can be pretty great.

Re: Your website should work without JavaScript (2021)

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Post by mattl » Sat, Oct 15, 2022, 2:33 PM UTC

edfletcher_t137 wrote: post #7

fexelein wrote: post #2

As recent as 2016 I was building some sites without any JavaScript. These weren’t small sites either. You can achieve a lot using some basic forms. It was quite fun

"I Turned Off JavaScript for a Whole Week and It Was Glorious - Wired 2015" It's not 2015 or 2016 anymore, not even close. We're the better part of a decade moved on. This is not a valid argument any longer. JavaScript is a critical part of the modern web experience. You may not like it, but that doesn't change the fact.

The problem is that JavaScript is used for tons of garbage purposes too. I wish for more control in my browser over what is running

Re: Your website should work without JavaScript (2021)

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Post by edfletcher_t137 » Sat, Oct 15, 2022, 2:34 PM UTC

mattl wrote: post #9

edfletcher_t137 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I Turned Off JavaScript for a Whole Week and It Was Glorious - Wired 2015" It's not 2015 or 2016 anymore, not even close. We're the better part of a decade moved on. This is not a valid argument any longer. JavaScript is a critical part of the modern web experience. You may not like it, but that doesn't change the fact.

The problem is that JavaScript is used for tons of garbage purposes too. I wish for more control in my browser over what is running

Faulting a technology for its malicious uses is a common fallacy, but a fallacy nonetheless. Not saying you're wrong (you're not), but it's not a valid argument against JavaScript.