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Equifax surveilled 1k remote workers, fired 24 found juggling two jobs

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Re: Equifax surveilled 1k remote workers, fired 24 found juggling two jobs

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Post by danw1979 »

I don’t know what to think about the “overemployment” trend that the pandemic and remote working has ushered in.

Most contractors seem to have no mutuality of obligation to their clients and I have friends running two and three gigs who claim their clients are happy.

I’ve had contract engineers who were obviously engaging in the practice though, and it drove me up the wall.

It just seems so dishonest and at the same time perfectly legal.

Re: Equifax surveilled 1k remote workers, fired 24 found juggling two jobs

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Post by MarcelOlsz »

danw1979 wrote: post #2

I don’t know what to think about the “overemployment” trend that the pandemic and remote working has ushered in. Most contractors seem to have no mutuality of obligation to their clients and I have friends running two and three gigs who claim their clients are happy. I’ve had contract engineers who were obviously engaging in the practice though, and it drove me up the wall. It just seems so dishonest and at the same…

How many CEO's and "advisors" and board members do you know "juggling" multiple jobs? I think it's "all of them".

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Post by jokethrowaway »

danw1979 wrote: post #2

I don’t know what to think about the “overemployment” trend that the pandemic and remote working has ushered in. Most contractors seem to have no mutuality of obligation to their clients and I have friends running two and three gigs who claim their clients are happy. I’ve had contract engineers who were obviously engaging in the practice though, and it drove me up the wall. It just seems so dishonest and at the same…

That's what contractors have been doing since forever.

The output requested at a job can often be "not that much".

Where you lose me is on employment contracts making this illegal, that's quite a risky proposition.

Why not just get jobs as a contractor and be upfront?

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Post by jklm »

danw1979 wrote: post #2

I don’t know what to think about the “overemployment” trend that the pandemic and remote working has ushered in. Most contractors seem to have no mutuality of obligation to their clients and I have friends running two and three gigs who claim their clients are happy. I’ve had contract engineers who were obviously engaging in the practice though, and it drove me up the wall. It just seems so dishonest and at the same…

The 24 they mention in the article are full time it looks like - does that change your mindset either way?

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Post by rangerelf »

danw1979 wrote: post #2

I don’t know what to think about the “overemployment” trend that the pandemic and remote working has ushered in. Most contractors seem to have no mutuality of obligation to their clients and I have friends running two and three gigs who claim their clients are happy. I’ve had contract engineers who were obviously engaging in the practice though, and it drove me up the wall. It just seems so dishonest and at the same…

Why? Why do you say "it drove you up the wall"?

A contractor owes you exactly what's on the contract, usually a certain amount of work delivered; what she/he did outside of that is (or should be) of absolutely zero interest to you, unless it's some kind of corporate spying or other illegal or unethical behavior.

A full-time employee is usually working based on a certain number of hours, so they owe the company exactly those hours, no more no less; if during those hours they perform satisfactorily, again, anything they do outside those hours should hold zero interest to you.

Your coworkers are right: if they can successfully deliver results while juggling multiple jobs, why does that drive you up the wall?

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Post by yieldcrv »

danw1979 wrote: post #2

I don’t know what to think about the “overemployment” trend that the pandemic and remote working has ushered in. Most contractors seem to have no mutuality of obligation to their clients and I have friends running two and three gigs who claim their clients are happy. I’ve had contract engineers who were obviously engaging in the practice though, and it drove me up the wall. It just seems so dishonest and at the same…

This is pretty much the first time that it is possible to have 2+ main jobs.

It has always been common to have a main job and a side gig, a main job and moonlighting in hospitality or service industry.

Just get your deliverables in, use separate company laptops. The incentives for overachieving are non-existent, oh wow a 5% bonus/raise dangled in front of you for even more responsibility versus an entire parallel salary and compensation package at the expected contribution level.

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Post by skybrian »

riffic wrote: post #9

absolutely nothing wrong with working more than one job if you can get away with it. It's not a lifestyle I want to live myself, but more power to anyone who wants or needs to in order to make their livings.

I think if you do that, you need to keep track of your hours, though? Charging two employers for the same hours would be fraudulent.
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