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Ask HN: Bored working for the current company, advice?

#1
I'm tired of working at my current company as an employee mainly due to how the company is being managed for the last ~5 years and considering moving to contracting or another company with more flexibility (4 days week?) and maybe a better career path. I was a contractor when I moved to the UK to work for the current company.

Might be too specific to my case, but maybe someone out there has gone through something similar in the past/recently?

About me: from EU, early 40s, 2 kids and wife, over 15 years experience as full stack dev, based in the UK working for the same company for 7+ years in a stable full stack role remotely since the pandemic as the company sole dev/sysadmin, earning £60k+ ($66k) per year.

About the company: small/medium(?) size company (13 employees + 1 owner/director, ~£15m ($16m) turnover per year), 12+ years trading, I report to the director.

I feel stuck and bored as there is no progress to be made due to it being a private owned business with one director. A lot of decisions taken benefit the director personally instead of the company as a whole.

I want more time to get back in education, but working 9-5/Mon-Fri is really draining and when I finish work I just want to get some rest. I have 3 months emergency fund that could pay for the house expenses if I decide to leave.

There are no benefits except what's required by law (28 holidays, including bank holidays, 3% pension match), no education budget, no perks.

Perhaps I need to look for a bigger company with a better career path? Maybe get back to contracting?

Thanks

Re: Ask HN: Bored working for the current company, advice?

#2
- get a new job

- it's easy for me to recommend this because I don't have a family to support, and I don't have to deal with the same amount of risk/uncertainty of potentially landing at a worse company

- £60k is low for 15 years of experience

- 13 employees = tiny company, not not even close to calling it medium-sized

- find a new job first, then quit the current one

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#3
I was in a similar position and went half time and got my masters . The main benefit being that it allows me to get back into the student pipeline via internships and get an opportunity at a company that otherwise wouldn't have looked at my resume. Once I was in the door, I blew most of the other interns out of the water because I had significantly more development experience and was offered a job.

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#6
Getting a new job might be the right answer, but don’t leave without trying to drive a hard bargain with your current employer. You might be surprised at how flexible they can be, I was able to go down to less than 5 days a week almost instantly after asking for it, for example (though at a more interchangeable role at a larger employer).

Give yourself two hours to study sales and negotiation techniques, it is a worthwhile investment for such an important conversation (and would probably be useful if you went and found something else anyway). The most important thing is to understand what feels important, and what feels impossible, on their side. I remember being shocked that a former employer was willing to discuss a $10,000 raise, but not a single additional vacation day – that’s just how the HR software worked.

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post #6

Getting a new job might be the right answer, but don’t leave without trying to drive a hard bargain with your current employer. You might be surprised at how flexible they can be, I was able to go down to less than 5 days a week almost instantly after asking for it, for example (though at a more interchangeable role at a larger employer). Give yourself two hours to study sales and negotiation techniques, it is a wort…

I agree on the negotiation skill point! I always read a few lines of a book about how to negotiate before every meeting with my boss. That way I am seldom caught off guard!

Re: Ask HN: Bored working for the current company, advice?

#8

Get a new job. You can get a contract job paying £500 a day quite easily in the UK. Do a 6 month contract, save up some runway, work on your own thing for a while, doing whatever interests you. Repeat.

Is this is what you are doing? Please tell me more about it.

Re: Ask HN: Bored working for the current company, advice?

#9
With your very limited runway I'd get another offer with another employer first. That immediately strengthens your negotiation position with your current employer, even if you have zero intention of taking the offer.

Basically start doing some interviews now. You'll probably have to brush up for those as well, and practice.

> I feel stuck and bored > Working 9-5/Mon-Fri is really draining

These two statements are contradictory imo. Figure out whether you want to stay in your comfort zone, or take a step in another direction.

Re: Ask HN: Bored working for the current company, advice?

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post #2

- get a new job - it's easy for me to recommend this because I don't have a family to support, and I don't have to deal with the same amount of risk/uncertainty of potentially landing at a worse company - £60k is low for 15 years of experience - 13 employees = tiny company, not not even close to calling it medium-sized - find a new job first, then quit the current one

£60k is low for 15 years of experience

£60k is the lower end of senior outside of London. It's not surprising at all.

£60k in a company that's making more than £1m per employee though, that's definitely "Fuck this" territory.

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