iPhone = Privacy?

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Post by _3lin » Tue, Sep 27, 2022, 2:03 PM UTC

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#2

Post by fsflover » Tue, Sep 27, 2022, 2:16 PM UTC

> With all that information, I think it's reasonable to say that iPhones are far from private. But, as the alternatives are even worse

Android smartphones are indeed worse, but it's not the only alternative. Consider GNU/Linux phones if you care about privacy and want to support it: https://puri.sm/products/librem-5 and https://pine64.org/pinephone.

There are also things like /e/OS (Edit: and GrapheneOS), but they are installed on Android phones and must obey their planned obsolescence due to the proprietary drivers (tied to an old Linux kernel).

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#3

Post by giantg2 » Tue, Sep 27, 2022, 2:20 PM UTC

No phone == privacy

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Post by beders » Tue, Sep 27, 2022, 2:21 PM UTC

giantg2 wrote: post #3

No phone == privacy

There's no privacy. There's just a price tag to your private data.

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Post by fsflover » Tue, Sep 27, 2022, 2:22 PM UTC

beders wrote: post #4

giantg2 wrote: post #3

No phone == privacy

There's no privacy. There's just a price tag to your private data.

Same as with security.

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Post by Algent » Tue, Sep 27, 2022, 2:22 PM UTC

> When you put your phone in airplane mode, you are simply telling your phone's OS to stop using the mobile network. The baseband system is still on and can be pinged by the mobile network.

I just started reading and there is already a sentence I don't believe very much, even less as a generalization. Does anyone here have a basis that could explain this bold statement ?

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Post by imgabe » Tue, Sep 27, 2022, 2:22 PM UTC

> iOS sends a lot of data about your phone to Apple, such as your phone number, your unique device identifier, your location and your IMEI number

Oh no! The manufacturer of my phone knows the unique identifier they created and assigned to my phone? Whatever shall I do?

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Post by fsflover » Tue, Sep 27, 2022, 2:24 PM UTC

imgabe wrote: post #7

> iOS sends a lot of data about your phone to Apple, such as your phone number, your unique device identifier, your location and your IMEI number Oh no! The manufacturer of my phone knows the unique identifier they created and assigned to my phone? Whatever shall I do?

They may know IMEI, since they made the phone. But why do they have to know your phone number and location? How can I avoid that?

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Post by qclibre22 » Tue, Sep 27, 2022, 2:24 PM UTC

imgabe wrote: post #7

> iOS sends a lot of data about your phone to Apple, such as your phone number, your unique device identifier, your location and your IMEI number Oh no! The manufacturer of my phone knows the unique identifier they created and assigned to my phone? Whatever shall I do?

Leave it at home or turn it off.

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Post by scarface74 » Tue, Sep 27, 2022, 2:24 PM UTC

fsflover wrote: post #2

> With all that information, I think it's reasonable to say that iPhones are far from private. But, as the alternatives are even worse Android smartphones are indeed worse, but it's not the only alternative. Consider GNU/Linux phones if you care about privacy and want to support it: https://puri.sm/products/librem-5 and https://pine64.org/pinephone . There are also things like /e/OS (Edit: and GrapheneOS), but they a…

And that phone also sends your IMEI and your location to the carrier. It has to enable to work.