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Re: Europe is in danger of rolling electricity shortages

#4
This is exactly the wrong moment to be deciding policy by tweetstorm. These issues require an engineering report to digest, not soundbites. This person may not intend to produce soundbites, but if it makes a good Twitter chain it is a string of sound bites.

I can't distinguish this thread from one of those crazy-lists people sometimes put together. It is too disjointed and lacks citations or developed thoughts.

Re: Europe is in danger of rolling electricity shortages

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post #4

This is exactly the wrong moment to be deciding policy by tweetstorm. These issues require an engineering report to digest, not soundbites. This person may not intend to produce soundbites, but if it makes a good Twitter chain it is a string of sound bites. I can't distinguish this thread from one of those crazy-lists people sometimes put together. It is too disjointed and lacks citations or developed thoughts.

I just read the screenshots of an actual article at the top. I mean, why isn't that article what was linked to?

Ugh. I hate Twitter.

Re: Europe is in danger of rolling electricity shortages

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post #5

And in the mist of this chaos they want everyone to switch to electric cars, how do they plan to charge them?

With electricity

What a silly comment. The switch over to an electric cars is a multi year process that will take at least until 2030 just for new cars. The current problems won't last nearlt that long

Re: Europe is in danger of rolling electricity shortages

#8
Here is what Switzerland is doing at the moment to prevent the worst case which would be rolling black outs.

They are planning for the worst case so they don't get caught with their pants down. This includes:

- Currently trying to fill as many reservoirs as possible

- Securing gas in foreign reservoirs.

- Plan for emergency gas plants that can be operational by January/February, the time Switzerland has the least electricity available.

- Legal framework to deal with energy shortage such as deciding which industry is considered essential and what kind of compensation would be provided for those that get shut off if it gets to this.

- The SBB is calculating how much electricity they can save by reducing trains and also piping power into homes instead of trains. From what I heard, current calculations show reducing service by 30% only saves around 10% electricity.

They also put out a plan which starts with asking people to use less electricity to worst case which would be planned 4 hour rolling blackouts.

Peoples' homes not getting electricity will be the last resort and unlikely as large industries will be asked first to stop producing and take the government money.

Switzerland produces more electricity per year than it needs. The issue is that the amounts don't line up so they export excess and import when they don't have enough.

Re: Europe is in danger of rolling electricity shortages

#10
It is so funny to see all those anti-renewable lobbiests come out of the woods everybtime something happens with regard to energy that can be, somehow, blamed on renewables. Previously it was the fossil fuel lobby, now it is the pro nuclear lobby. All predict doom, everytime. And all of those fail to properly analyse the way electricity is priced on the European market, and then start looking at those special causes, French lower then expected nuclear capacity, a screwed up gas market among other things.
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