We Need New Motherboards Before GPUs Collapse Under Their Own Gravity
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Re: We Need New Motherboards Before GPUs Collapse Under Their Own Gravity
#2My motherboard says it has "reinforced" pcie slot :)
But yea, I have to say peak power consumption has to be regulated so companies compete in efficiency, not raw power.
Re: We Need New Motherboards Before GPUs Collapse Under Their Own Gravity
#3Turn the tower on its side so the motherboard is parallel with the ground and the weight of the GPU keeps it in the PCI-e slot. It is my understanding that GPUs are able to still properly dissipate their heat in this configuration.
Great article!
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#4At this point both the motherboard and graphics card need to be mounted on the back plate of the chassis, so that they can both use tower coolers. You can already use a PCIe extender to achieve this, but it should become the standard.
Re: We Need New Motherboards Before GPUs Collapse Under Their Own Gravity
#5My motherboard says it has "reinforced" pcie slot :) But yea, I have to say peak power consumption has to be regulated so companies compete in efficiency, not raw power.
I don't really agree that max power should be regulated, but power efficiency should be featured much more prominently in reviews, as should TCO.
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#6Turn the tower on its side so the motherboard is parallel with the ground and the weight of the GPU keeps it in the PCI-e slot. It is my understanding that GPUs are able to still properly dissipate their heat in this configuration. Great article!
Watch out or you'll invent desktop cases and we'll put the monitor on top. ;)
Re: We Need New Motherboards Before GPUs Collapse Under Their Own Gravity
#71. While I agree we're beginning to reach absurd proportions, lets really analyze the situation and think about it.
2. Are there any GPUs that actually have performed physical damage on a motherboard slot?
3. GPUs are already 2-wide by default, and some are 3-wide. 4-wide GPUs will have more support from the chassis. This seems like the simpler solution, especially since most people rarely have a 2nd add in card at all in their computers these days.
4. Perhaps the real issue is that PCIe extenders need to become a thing again, and GPUs can be placed in an anchored point elsewhere on the chassis. However, extending up to 4-wide GPUs seems more likely (because PCIe needs to get faster-and-faster. GPU-to-CPU communications is growing more and more important, so the PCIe 5 and PCIe 6 lanes are going to be harder and harder to extend out).
For now, its probably just an absurd look, but I'm not 100% convinced we have a real problem yet. For years, GPUs have drawn more power than the CPU/Motherboard combined, because GPUs perform most of the work in video games (ie: Matrix multiplication to move the list of vertices to the right location, and pixel-shaders to calculate the angle of light/shadows).
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#8It's not a motherboard problem. How would you integrate support for user provisioned cooling options (to match cooler to the card wattage) and still keep any sort of flexible expansion slot area? GPUs can't be turned into a single chip, there's too much going on, so you're never going to have a CPU cooler situation. So, fine, what if you made them daughterboards mounted like M2 SSD's; that may work, except ATX now has to become ITX to give room for an extra board's worth of space.
It's a PC case orthodoxy issue, really. People want plugs at the back of the box, which dictates how the GPU must sit in the case, and disagreement on GPU sizing means no brackets. Solve these two issues and life gets a lot better.
Or, solve it like SFF case guys solved this problem, by using a PCIE extender cable to allow the GPU to be mounted wherever you like.
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#91. While I agree we're beginning to reach absurd proportions, lets really analyze the situation and think about it. 2. Are there any GPUs that actually have performed physical damage on a motherboard slot? 3. GPUs are already 2-wide by default, and some are 3-wide. 4-wide GPUs will have more support from the chassis. This seems like the simpler solution, especially since most people rarely have a 2nd add in card at a…
RE 2: We were shipping a system with a 980ti and it ripped the PCIE slot off the board despite being propped with foam.
Re: We Need New Motherboards Before GPUs Collapse Under Their Own Gravity
#10Turn the tower on its side so the motherboard is parallel with the ground and the weight of the GPU keeps it in the PCI-e slot. It is my understanding that GPUs are able to still properly dissipate their heat in this configuration. Great article!
Came here to somewhat sarcastically write this, glad to see it here.
Less sarcastically, I would quite like to go back to putting my monitor on top of a desktop - sure beats a stack of books.