Cloudflare’s Zero Egress Fee Object Storage, R2, Is Now GA

I find it much easier to reason about pure storage-based pricing compared to storage and egress-based pricing. I can much easier limit how much people can store in my application than add something much harder to understand like transfer quotas. So independent of how R2 compares purely on price I think having a big entry with a much simpler pricing scheme is a win already.

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Post by hardwaresofton » Wed, Sep 21, 2022, 2:40 PM UTC

waskip wrote: post #2

I’m storing 87TB on https://wasabi.com/ for ~$515 a month

The trick with Wasabi is that you are generally expected to not retrieve more than you’ve input in the same month, no?

“Less egress” would essentially be the trick on wasabi where zero egress cost is the defining feature of R2. Of course, there must be limits to it but it is interesting.

Wonder if at this point teams start to consider different S3 providers for different weekends

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Post by electroly » Wed, Sep 21, 2022, 2:41 PM UTC

waskip wrote: post #2

I’m storing 87TB on https://wasabi.com/ for ~$515 a month

If you're using it for hot object storage and not as a cold backup, Wasabi has by far the worst egress situation of any object storage provider. They have "free" egress because egress is capped at 1 full retrieval per month, and they'll just ban you if you use more. R2 has actual, legitimately free egress. I think there's almost no overlap in use cases between Wasabi and R2 even though they're ostensibly both object storage providers.

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Post by londons_explore » Wed, Sep 21, 2022, 2:43 PM UTC

waskip wrote: post #2

I’m storing 87TB on https://wasabi.com/ for ~$515 a month

I think it shows market failure when someone can offer exactly the same service as a competitor (an S3 API) for an 80% lower price, and not almost immediately take over the whole market.

I think governments need to step in and require that compute platforms like AWS are split up into constituent parts, and there is no cost disadvantage to mix-n-matching between suppliers. Eg. VM's on Azure and storage across the road in AWS should not require payment of egress fees that wouldn't be payable within either providers network.

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Post by underbluewaters » Wed, Sep 21, 2022, 2:44 PM UTC

I'm excited to see more details on how R2 data is going to be replicated across different data centers in the future. I had assumed this was already operational based on previous blog posts so I'm a little disappointed to learn that is still TBD. It's a major reason I chose R2 over S3 as I don't want to manage moving around data for different tenants myself.

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Post by catapart » Wed, Sep 21, 2022, 2:47 PM UTC

One thing I really like about CloudFlare is that they seem to have people who can correctly identify friction-points for developers and have a solid plan on how to solve them. Looking forward to messing with this!

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Post by fabian2k » Wed, Sep 21, 2022, 2:49 PM UTC

londons_explore wrote: post #7

waskip wrote: post #2

I’m storing 87TB on https://wasabi.com/ for ~$515 a month

I think it shows market failure when someone can offer exactly the same service as a competitor (an S3 API) for an 80% lower price, and not almost immediately take over the whole market. I think governments need to step in and require that compute platforms like AWS are split up into constituent parts, and there is no cost disadvantage to mix-n-matching between suppliers. Eg. VM's on Azure and storage across the road…

For storage you need trust, an S3 competitor doesn't help me if they lose my data or are unreliable. It takes time to earn that trust, and it's far from easy for small competitors to do that.