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The internet is already over

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Re: The internet is already over

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This guy's slurping the slop off the top of the mob and complains it's fecal and watery, while invoking alchemy to try to explain why.

There's more deep, weird, genuinely interesting stuff than ever, just usually not on twitter. Actually, yeah, the author is conflating Web 2.0 with the internet.

Re: The internet is already over

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I was going to say the article is written in the style of Bill Hicks with some George Carlin, but then I remember that everyone is freaked out right now and "end of the world" themes are popular. No the internet is not going away, unless of course the world does. Some current concerns from an American point of view:

- An ex President may be indicted soon, the first time in US history

- The ex President threatens the nation with the wrath of his supporters

- How much danger are Americans in from domestic terrorism? Not sure, but could be substantial

- The American West is drying up. Europe and China are running out of water too

- Russia is losing the war. No one knows what to expect when Putin is backed into a corner

- An election is 7 weeks away. No one knows what will happen. Will there be revolt by the losers?

- The pandemic may be declared over but is still killing people. Long Covid is a problem

- Gender and sex cultural wars are raging in the Anglo sphere

- Inflation is slowly eating into the savings of Americans

- Supply chain and workforce turmoil are still a problem from the pandemic

- The Greenland ice sheet is melting at a faster rate than expected. The Gulf Stream may shut down

- Climate change is disrupting agriculture and there are dangers of famines and climate refugees

It's all happening at once in real time.

Re: The internet is already over

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Definitely an entertaining read, so in that matter it "won" its place here. Now in regards to the actual content I am torn.

On one hand you could say he is bored, bitter, "old" dude who is tired from keeping up with the advancements and declares the end of progress.

On the other hand, you could argue that there is some genuine insight there. Internet is not an internal part of being a human. I even subscribe to the idea that it many ways it goes against being a human (social and physical detachment, desensitized emotions). And in the end of the day, no matter what is said and done on the internet, our existence is primarily physical.

Maybe the internet will not die, but maybe there is a regression to the mean. It feels like the excitement of the "digital self" is past its peak and people are slowly re-discovering that offline life is "cool again". Or if not "cool" a necessary plane to exist in order to effect changes. I think the Floyd example was on point; change happens on the street, not online. The stakes are simply not high enough there.

Re: The internet is already over

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The internet is over because we have to start subtracting sh*t off it, like pop ups that returned in cookie notices and sign up fade-in boxes. We need to subtract off the bot spam, the copy & paste blogs that haunt google. We need to subtract off posts like this one that dare to fill the readers mind with hopeless garbage glossed up with red hot cultural molasses.

The internet is the khala from starcraft, it connects our thoughts and emotions to our internet brothers and sisters. An interconnected web of points.

We don't need a gustav dore inspired horror cluttering up the place. Subtract out the froth at the bottom of a crashed beach wave, and you'll have the best internet there's ever been.

Re: The internet is already over

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HN articles about doomsday are utterly moronic 9/10. I just glanced and saw an obnoxiously engineered attempt to be ominous. It’s not even the right Goya painting on the header. Will not read

The writing wasn't for me either, but Goya isn't mentioned, and Rubens' Saturn predates Goya's by a couple hundred years.

Re: The internet is already over

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post #4

Definitely an entertaining read, so in that matter it "won" its place here. Now in regards to the actual content I am torn. On one hand you could say he is bored, bitter, "old" dude who is tired from keeping up with the advancements and declares the end of progress. On the other hand, you could argue that there is some genuine insight there. Internet is not an internal part of being a human. I even subscribe to the i…

I guess I think very differently from the author and you. I fundamentally see "online" and "offline" parts of the world as two parts of the same whole with fading distinction. The offline is the online; the online is the offline. The Floyd protests were significantly organized on social media and activist discourse happened all over social networks.

Some people will spend more time online than offline, some the opposite, just like some folks spend more time playing sports or reading books. That doesn't mean they engage in separate lives, though probably do have different circles of community and friends.

Re: The internet is already over

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I was going to say the article is written in the style of Bill Hicks with some George Carlin, but then I remember that everyone is freaked out right now and "end of the world" themes are popular. No the internet is not going away, unless of course the world does. Some current concerns from an American point of view: - An ex President may be indicted soon, the first time in US history - The ex President threatens the…

You've missed the point, the author explains how some things are simply older than the internet and will probably outlive it (the night, the sea). I think it's the Lindy effect.

P.s. do you have to make this about politics?

Re: The internet is already over

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The author makes a lot of witty, erudite References – a method that has annoyingly become popular and is often mistaken as "good writing" – but I think he has missed a simple and obvious truth: culture is determined by fashion. Not fashion as in clothing, but fashion as in ideas and things that are trendy for a time then fade away, replaced by the next thing. The next thing is often an indirect reaction to the previous thing. Sometimes it's the exact opposite.

Culture has been very online for the last decade and extremely online for the last 3 years. We are just witnessing a cultural shift away from this and toward ideas like real, physical, human, touch, outside, present, etc. being trendy. The Internet isn't "over", it's just adapting to a new cultural fashion. The technological immaturity of stuff like VR is also a factor.

By 2040, we'll all be extremely online again.

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