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Ask HN: Why is pay so much higher in the US? (or is it?)

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Ask HN: Why is pay so much higher in the US? (or is it?)

#1
Even compared to other developed nations in Europe and most certainly compared to my country (Korea), the pay range I see for remote jobs from US seems to be in a totally different ball park. There must be numerous contributing factors, but I can't quite grasp how come.

Or maybe not all jobs are paid so well or living costs compromise all that, but do they?

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#3
I think it's mostly culture. Compared to other regions, US favors innovation/risk taking and sees software developers as value creators rather than cost centers.

There's also the fact that USD is the global reserve currency which makes it much easier to raise capital.

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#4

I think it's mostly culture. Compared to other regions, US favors innovation/risk taking and sees software developers as value creators rather than cost centers. There's also the fact that USD is the global reserve currency which makes it much easier to raise capital.

> USD is the global reserve currency which makes it much easier to raise capital.

Could you explain more?

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#7

I think it's mostly culture. Compared to other regions, US favors innovation/risk taking and sees software developers as value creators rather than cost centers. There's also the fact that USD is the global reserve currency which makes it much easier to raise capital.

I doubt the global reserve piece is a major part of it, you could just as easily argue its cheaper to raise capital in Switzerland than the US, but devs are still paid more in the US.

Even historically speaking when the US dollar was not the reserve currency, pay was still higher in the US. It probably comes down to productivity and the transmission of that to wages more than anything else.

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#8
I would say the peak 0.1% are paid much higher in the US. But the median pay might well be higher in Europe.

(EDIT: Wow, look at the numbers cheschire linked to. Median wealth per adult: US is 26th place after Israel.)

In my opinion, the cause is strong competition for the top talent worldwide. And because raising money is easier in the US and because taking risks is more common in the US, they will compete more strongly for the top talent, too.

Also, some jobs just have to pay really well to make them acceptable. In the area where I live, $60k annually will pay for a very nice lifestyle for a small family with kids. Little house with garden, hiking in nature, free childcare, schools, university, etc. But if you have to live in San Francisco, $60k annually with kids is almost impossible. Rent over there is like 5x to what I pay, so it makes sense that people will need 3x the salary to do okay. And if you then add the cost for childcare, school, and university, you really need 5x the salary in San Francisco to get a comparable lifestyle to rural Europe.

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#9
The US not having healthcare and higher education for all is a big factor. They also have worse infrastructure (condemned bridges in use...)

So you get low taxes and lots of money into your pocket, but then you fork it out again. Remember, those grads landing a job at a FAANG have hundreds of thousands in student debt that is attracting interest to pay back.

It’s also the cheapest developed country to buy “stuff” For similar reasons - cars, appliances, electronics. Even food, beer and cigarettes are drastically cheaper than other Developed countries.

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