PayPal blocked Flipper Zero account with $1.3M

Probably because they are a russian company [0]. Yes they have an Inc. in the US but most likely the money goes to Russia. They are violating some sanctions.

0, https://twitter.com/flipper_zero/status/1503384490026151938

0, https://www.flipperdevices.com/jobs

Re: PayPal blocked Flipper Zero account with $1.3M

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Post by shswkna » Tue, Sep 06, 2022, 6:21 PM UTC

I am not familiar with Flipper Zero, but I can attest from first hand experience that Paypal does not really care about its customers.

I struggled for 3 months to get Paypal to pay out a odd $300 which I received as a refund because I cancelled a newspaper subscription. I am not in the US and had a Paypal account linked only to my credit card.

Paypal said that due to financial regulations in my country my Paypal balance may not be used at all - no withdrawals, sending it somewhere or paying with it. I may only make a payment via my credit card.

In the end I only got my money after requesting to close my account - and since they could not keep my money, the matter was escalated higher. But not before they in all seriousness suggested that I donate my money to an official Paypal charity.

Re: PayPal blocked Flipper Zero account with $1.3M

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Post by tester756 » Tue, Sep 06, 2022, 6:37 PM UTC

What's the safest way to transfer money relatively anonymously nowadays?

by relatively I mean that I don't care if gov/police knows, but the person who sends/receives money doesn't know me, I just don't want people from games to know me

I've used paypal account with random name like Snarky Snark

and managed to transfer like 300usd, but I'm worried that the next time they may block me somehow

Re: PayPal blocked Flipper Zero account with $1.3M

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Post by James_Kirk » Tue, Sep 06, 2022, 6:46 PM UTC

unpopularopp wrote: post #4

Probably because they are a russian company [0]. Yes they have an Inc. in the US but most likely the money goes to Russia. They are violating some sanctions. 0, https://twitter.com/flipper_zero/status/1503384490026151938 0, https://www.flipperdevices.com/jobs

They are not Russian taxpayers. Also half of the team is Ukrainian.

And the main issue is the silence from PayPal and complete lack of communication.

Re: PayPal blocked Flipper Zero account with $1.3M

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Post by ntauthority » Tue, Sep 06, 2022, 6:53 PM UTC

tester756 wrote: post #6

What's the safest way to transfer money relatively anonymously nowadays? by relatively I mean that I don't care if gov/police knows, but the person who sends/receives money doesn't know me, I just don't want people from games to know me I've used paypal account with random name like Snarky Snark and managed to transfer like 300usd, but I'm worried that the next time they may block me somehow

Somewhat regrettably given the connotations also associated, cryptocurrency. In countries where there are legal, regulated exchanges, this pretty much meets the requirements there.

Re: PayPal blocked Flipper Zero account with $1.3M

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Post by justsomehnguy » Tue, Sep 06, 2022, 6:56 PM UTC

James_Kirk wrote: post #7

unpopularopp wrote: post #4

Probably because they are a russian company [0]. Yes they have an Inc. in the US but most likely the money goes to Russia. They are violating some sanctions. 0, https://twitter.com/flipper_zero/status/1503384490026151938 0, https://www.flipperdevices.com/jobs

They are not Russian taxpayers. Also half of the team is Ukrainian. And the main issue is the silence from PayPal and complete lack of communication.

I would say what the main issue here is what PayPal allowed them to establish a business account (June 7th) and happily took money from their customers. Now both the company AND it's customers are fuc^W scammed out of their money.

Seems like Stripe doesn't have a problem with them (because they are incorporated in Delaware, not in Russia?)

Re: PayPal blocked Flipper Zero account with $1.3M

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Post by James_Kirk » Tue, Sep 06, 2022, 6:58 PM UTC

justsomehnguy wrote: post #9

James_Kirk wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are not Russian taxpayers. Also half of the team is Ukrainian. And the main issue is the silence from PayPal and complete lack of communication.

I would say what the main issue here is what PayPal allowed them to establish a business account (June 7th) and happily took money from their customers. Now both the company AND it's customers are fuc^W scammed out of their money. Seems like Stripe doesn't have a problem with them (because they are incorporated in Delaware, not in Russia?)

They have been US company long before the war. You are just saying they are affiliated with Russia just because they have many Russian employees? That's right?