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It’s time to let the five stages of grief die (2019)

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Re: It’s time to let the five stages of grief die (2019)

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No, I’m sure that can’t be right - the stages of grief are so well known they must be true.

I mean, c’mon - have books and films just been lying to me all this time?!

But maybe it’s not completely wrong - there must be a core of truth to it if it resonates so well. Maybe we can preserve that even if we don’t stick to the specific stages.

But how could I have been fooled by this for so long? What’s wrong with me that I believed it so unquestioningly?

But it’s not just me - this predates awareness of the reproducibility crisis in social sciences. It’s not so surprising that it doesn’t replicate. I’m sure there’s a deeper understanding out there, and this model wasn’t so bad as a stepping stone to that.

Re: It’s time to let the five stages of grief die (2019)

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No, I’m sure that can’t be right - the stages of grief are so well known they must be true. I mean, c’mon - have books and films just been lying to me all this time?! But maybe it’s not completely wrong - there must be a core of truth to it if it resonates so well. Maybe we can preserve that even if we don’t stick to the specific stages. But how could I have been fooled by this for so long? What’s wrong with me that…

As the end of the article also mentions, in a more recent book:

> ... Kübler-Ross remarked that the five stages are “not stops on some linear timeline in grief. Not everyone goes through all of them or goes in a prescribed order.”

So these are more the possible reactions that someone may have to a grievous event - not everyone will experience all reactions, and also will definitely not go through them in the given order.

Re: It’s time to let the five stages of grief die (2019)

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post #2

No, I’m sure that can’t be right - the stages of grief are so well known they must be true. I mean, c’mon - have books and films just been lying to me all this time?! But maybe it’s not completely wrong - there must be a core of truth to it if it resonates so well. Maybe we can preserve that even if we don’t stick to the specific stages. But how could I have been fooled by this for so long? What’s wrong with me that…

A bit forced, and they all sound like denial, but I can see all the stages if I squint.

Re: It’s time to let the five stages of grief die (2019)

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No, I’m sure that can’t be right - the stages of grief are so well known they must be true. I mean, c’mon - have books and films just been lying to me all this time?! But maybe it’s not completely wrong - there must be a core of truth to it if it resonates so well. Maybe we can preserve that even if we don’t stick to the specific stages. But how could I have been fooled by this for so long? What’s wrong with me that…

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Re: It’s time to let the five stages of grief die (2019)

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post #2

No, I’m sure that can’t be right - the stages of grief are so well known they must be true. I mean, c’mon - have books and films just been lying to me all this time?! But maybe it’s not completely wrong - there must be a core of truth to it if it resonates so well. Maybe we can preserve that even if we don’t stick to the specific stages. But how could I have been fooled by this for so long? What’s wrong with me that…

The five stages of grief belongs in the same circle as hell as the other HR nonsense. It all resonates well but little is based on scientific evidence.

Re: It’s time to let the five stages of grief die (2019)

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There have been criticisms of this "model" for many years, but it has entered the public consciousness, so people assume it to be true. There was even a Simpsons episode where Homer goes thru the 5 stages in 5 minutes. "Everyone talks about it so iut must be true!" school of science.

I have a similar problem with the Heroes Journey, which if you are in fiction/screenplay writing, is considered the Bible, and criticising it is like being a heretic. So much so, many books on writing assume it to be true an starting point. But I always found it to be silly, and recently found a great article that points out its a nonsense made up list of common fantasy tropes:

https://talesoftimesforgotten.com/2020/12/31/the-heros-journ...

Re: It’s time to let the five stages of grief die (2019)

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post #2

No, I’m sure that can’t be right - the stages of grief are so well known they must be true. I mean, c’mon - have books and films just been lying to me all this time?! But maybe it’s not completely wrong - there must be a core of truth to it if it resonates so well. Maybe we can preserve that even if we don’t stick to the specific stages. But how could I have been fooled by this for so long? What’s wrong with me that…

I see what you did there
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