Germany’s €9 train tickets scheme ‘saved 1.8m tons of CO2 emissions’
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Re: Germany’s €9 train tickets scheme ‘saved 1.8m tons of CO2 emissions’
#2Good thing it won't be continued then, because if there's one thing Germany hates it's improvements.
Re: Germany’s €9 train tickets scheme ‘saved 1.8m tons of CO2 emissions’
#3Good thing it won't be continued then, because if there's one thing Germany hates it's improvements.
I want to downvote this, but unfortunately it's true. Living here, people have lost hope that the government will improve anything.
Re: Germany’s €9 train tickets scheme ‘saved 1.8m tons of CO2 emissions’
#4Good thing it won't be continued then, because if there's one thing Germany hates it's improvements.
I want to downvote this, but unfortunately it's true. Living here, people have lost hope that the government will improve anything.
But clearly, accelerating the shutdown of nuclear is the best way to combat climate change.
Re: Germany’s €9 train tickets scheme ‘saved 1.8m tons of CO2 emissions’
#5Wrong. It flooded the network with vacationers who normally could not afford travelling at all, while workers had to resort to their cars again to reach their jobs in time.
Counting everyone who "would not have travelled by train", meaning "likely not at all" as saved emission is not very convincing.
Re: Germany’s €9 train tickets scheme ‘saved 1.8m tons of CO2 emissions’
#6Earlier quoted context omitted.
I want to downvote this, but unfortunately it's true. Living here, people have lost hope that the government will improve anything.
But clearly, accelerating the shutdown of nuclear is the best way to combat climate change.
Not everything needs to be "climate" now as we ignored it anyway for too long..lol. It is also about not using finite resources, waste, risk, economics.. lately looking at France's and China's heat waves, didn't we all learn that all our coal/gas and first of these nuclear plants will fail more and more and not be a reliable power source during increasing heat and drought waves and the near future?
And then there it is also good to have that Ukrainian example... conflucts & war will now also only increase, that is for sure.
Worst of all I cannot get rid of the feeling that everybody shouting "nuclear now" was denying or at least ignoring clinate change for the last 30 years... slowly realizing that climate change is a thing and longing for the laziest worst second option. No, that's not enough, and even all that aside would never suffice, barely help now. Be happy in your nuclear focused states and fantasies but leave this at rest here at least ..
Re: Germany’s €9 train tickets scheme ‘saved 1.8m tons of CO2 emissions’
#7Wrong. It flooded the network with vacationers who normally could not afford travelling at all, while workers had to resort to their cars again to reach their jobs in time. Counting everyone who "would not have travelled by train", meaning "likely not at all" as saved emission is not very convincing.
According to the article, the study accounts for this.
Do you have some evidence that it does not?
Re: Germany’s €9 train tickets scheme ‘saved 1.8m tons of CO2 emissions’
#8Good thing it won't be continued then, because if there's one thing Germany hates it's improvements.
They're considering replacing it with at 69 euro ticket, which seems pretty reasonable:
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/germany-9-euro-ticket-end...
It's still pretty hard to defend them though; for some reason the bureaucracy is incapable of adding the new ticket in time to address this winter's energy crisis.
Re: Germany’s €9 train tickets scheme ‘saved 1.8m tons of CO2 emissions’
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
But clearly, accelerating the shutdown of nuclear is the best way to combat climate change.
Not everything needs to be "climate" now as we ignored it anyway for too long..lol. It is also about not using finite resources, waste, risk, economics.. lately looking at France's and China's heat waves, didn't we all learn that all our coal/gas and first of these nuclear plants will fail more and more and not be a reliable power source during increasing heat and drought waves and the near future? And then there it…
I've been shouting "nuclear now" and "climate change" for about 30 years. I not the only one.
Re: Germany’s €9 train tickets scheme ‘saved 1.8m tons of CO2 emissions’
#10Wrong. It flooded the network with vacationers who normally could not afford travelling at all, while workers had to resort to their cars again to reach their jobs in time. Counting everyone who "would not have travelled by train", meaning "likely not at all" as saved emission is not very convincing.
I know nobody who had to switch to their car to come to work in time.
On the hand, most coworkers tried the bus in the morning, or switched to bycicles, with the occasional bus trip when it rained. It was a huge success, people flooded the trains.