PINE64 has let its community down
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PINE64 has let its community down
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#2I hope this turns around, was looking forward to a new class of phone/tablets
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#3Is drew pursuing being a pundit more these days? He always had a certain propensity for commentary, but it was usually about projects, but now seems to be more general commentary. This reads more like a disclaimer of someone who just saw the uproar around Pine64 and said "oh crap, I recommended those. better do some intellectual damage control".
I like you drew, and I pay for your products. I make this post with a sincere face, please do the moves that got you to the dance.
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#4Related discussion yesterday: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32494659
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#5Related discussion yesterday: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32494659
And the follow-up today: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32507912
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#6Is drew pursuing being a pundit more these days? He always had a certain propensity for commentary, but it was usually about projects, but now seems to be more general commentary. This reads more like a disclaimer of someone who just saw the uproar around Pine64 and said "oh crap, I recommended those. better do some intellectual damage control". I like you drew, and I pay for your products. I make this post with a si…
He recommended it before, and now he wants to give some context to his other posts so people know he changed his opinion.
I don't see anything wrong with that. It seems to be the right thing to do. The alternative is deleting the posts so people don't get mislead by him recommending PINE64 even though he maybe wouldn't anymore at the current point in time.
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#7Is drew pursuing being a pundit more these days? He always had a certain propensity for commentary, but it was usually about projects, but now seems to be more general commentary. This reads more like a disclaimer of someone who just saw the uproar around Pine64 and said "oh crap, I recommended those. better do some intellectual damage control". I like you drew, and I pay for your products. I make this post with a si…
I write about the things which are important to me, and this is no different. FOSS belongs to all of us, and we each have a personal responsibility to make sure that the community is a positive force towards the ideals we aspire to. I take this responsibility very seriously.
I have been aware of these developments for a long time, as many PINE64 community members are among my personal friends and collaborators. I had hoped that pressure from others would be enough to bring about change, but seeing PINE64's response to Martijn's post confirmed that it's not. I'm here to do my part in keeping the pressure on PINE64 to do the right thing.
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#8On a more positive note - I’m delighted with my new pinecil soldering iron.
Oh and fun fact - the power bricks of (some) old Asus laptop are the right connector and voltage and wattage.
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#9Is drew pursuing being a pundit more these days? He always had a certain propensity for commentary, but it was usually about projects, but now seems to be more general commentary. This reads more like a disclaimer of someone who just saw the uproar around Pine64 and said "oh crap, I recommended those. better do some intellectual damage control". I like you drew, and I pay for your products. I make this post with a si…
He recommended it before, and now he wants to give some context to his other posts so people know he changed his opinion. I don't see anything wrong with that. It seems to be the right thing to do. The alternative is deleting the posts so people don't get mislead by him recommending PINE64 even though he maybe wouldn't anymore at the current point in time.
I don't read his post as him changing his opinion on recommending Pine64, but as a request to Pine64 to fix the situation, in which he expresses his expectations. I'm rather happy he did: he is read, and I share these expectations. I want Pine64 to succeed (actually, the mobile Linux ecosystem but I think they have a major role in it and can keep having a positive influence) and I think they need to do what Drew wrote for this to happen.
I hope they'll reach out to Martjin and that they find a way to come to an understanding.
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#10Is drew pursuing being a pundit more these days? He always had a certain propensity for commentary, but it was usually about projects, but now seems to be more general commentary. This reads more like a disclaimer of someone who just saw the uproar around Pine64 and said "oh crap, I recommended those. better do some intellectual damage control". I like you drew, and I pay for your products. I make this post with a si…
He's given clear recommendations.
Mobile FOSS is important. He has a position where a simple blog post by him can reach the HN front pages. It's a good thing that he's putting his opinion out there in a constructive fashion to help prevent mobile FOSS from decaying.
It would be one thing if he went all Twitter and started telling everyone to leave Pine otherwise they would be morally equivalent to Hitler.
That's not what he did. He has pointed out several alternative steps Pine can take and what he believes the outcome would be, while also pointing out a simple constructive step that he believes would help remedy not just this specific situation, but long term, perhaps irreparable, damage to mobile FOSS.
This comes across as an unambiguously good post to me.