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Sending spammers to password purgatory

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Re: Sending spammers to password purgatory

#5
Ok, I have no issue with tactics like these when they're wasting spammers' time. But sometimes it seems like real users get caught up in these honeypots for scammers and hackers.

A lot of the crap real sites make people go through e.g. when they lose access to their account or login to a VPN or the site just "can't verify their identity" for some reason. Where you go through a bunch of hoops and captchas, only to have some step fail or reach a dead end. They really seem like they're just set up to intentionally waste people's time.

For example, Steam has a system where if you enter too many invalid passwords, it will present you with a captcha which you can never actually solve. It's a lot more annoying than just saying "you have been locked out of trying to log in for X hours".

But this, this is fine. It's pretty clear that the person you're targeting is a spammer, and it's pretty clear to the user after about 60 seconds that you're password system is a joke.

Re: Sending spammers to password purgatory

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Ok, I have no issue with tactics like these when they're wasting spammers' time. But sometimes it seems like real users get caught up in these honeypots for scammers and hackers. A lot of the crap real sites make people go through e.g. when they lose access to their account or login to a VPN or the site just "can't verify their identity" for some reason. Where you go through a bunch of hoops and captchas, only to hav…

I tried to sign up for steam and my long complex password seemed to trigger a never ending stream of captures. Also, just today ticketmaster decided my firefox browser was a bot and blocked me. Fun times.

Re: Sending spammers to password purgatory

#9

Ok, I have no issue with tactics like these when they're wasting spammers' time. But sometimes it seems like real users get caught up in these honeypots for scammers and hackers. A lot of the crap real sites make people go through e.g. when they lose access to their account or login to a VPN or the site just "can't verify their identity" for some reason. Where you go through a bunch of hoops and captchas, only to hav…

> For example, Steam has a system where if you enter too many invalid passwords, it will present you with a captcha which you can never actually solve.

I call this "login gaslighting" and it's evil. Pioneered by the "do no evil" company.

Re: Sending spammers to password purgatory

#10
I wouldn't be comfortable doing this, for one thing, we know people tend to re-use passwords. So any email/password info you collect should be treated with security like they just gave you their bank login, because some of them did. So then Troy has to report himself to his own service (haveibeenpwned).
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