ISO Warning Signs

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Post by mahami » Wed, Aug 03, 2022, 8:14 AM UTC

Re: ISO Warning Signs

#2

Post by asojfdowgh » Wed, Aug 03, 2022, 8:41 AM UTC

118 CHF (123 USD) to have warning signs...

I'm glad that the UN didn't go with these, since interoperability of safety symbology should not be restricted to everyone but poor people

I just wish the UN's efforts went further than just chemicals

Re: ISO Warning Signs

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Post by techdragon » Wed, Aug 03, 2022, 11:01 AM UTC

This is one of those standards I wish we could just unlock as free. We are surrounded by these symbols due to their obvious utility, to the point where I routinely see them used unknowingly on things that cannot possibly be legal given the copyrights inherent in the original source material, yet because many people not working in an industry that comes across such standards documents as part of standards compliance... may not even have realised they come from a standard they have to pay for!

They go on to produce work containing these symbols in varying degrees of modification for so many reasons, its just bloody pointless at this stage to keep these locked away.

- ISO 3758

- ISO 3864

- ISO 7000

- ISO 7001

- ISO 7010

and more.

You can even browse them all... https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#search yet you cannot use them without paying.

We live in a world plastered with these symbols, the very purpose of which is to be an international agreed upon symbolic language for safety and utility, yet we lock them away behind a nominal paywall that cannot possibly be a lucrative revenue stream... its just daft bordering on hypocritical.

Id go so far as to say these symbols they belong in the open standardised like Unicode, for all to use and easily available for clear compatibility, delegated from ISO to another body that can be more open if their hands are tied for some reason.

Re: ISO Warning Signs

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Post by captn3m0 » Fri, Aug 05, 2022, 12:24 PM UTC

Thingiverse has ready prints: https://www.thingiverse.com/search?q=ISO+7010+&page=1&type=t...

Re: ISO Warning Signs

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Post by dtagames » Fri, Aug 05, 2022, 12:27 PM UTC

Will the phone symbol need to be updated since phones haven't looked like that in a long time? It could be tough to explain the "emergency phone" one, for example, to a kid.

Re: ISO Warning Signs

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Aug 05, 2022, 12:32 PM UTC

dtagames wrote: post #5

Will the phone symbol need to be updated since phones haven't looked like that in a long time? It could be tough to explain the "emergency phone" one, for example, to a kid.

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Re: ISO Warning Signs

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Post by 5e92cb50239222b » Fri, Aug 05, 2022, 12:37 PM UTC

dtagames wrote: post #5

Will the phone symbol need to be updated since phones haven't looked like that in a long time? It could be tough to explain the "emergency phone" one, for example, to a kid.

Probably because it's pretty obvious it's a phone, since it has a distinguishable shape and all. As silhouettes used in these signs are rather simple, I would imagine a "modern" phone would look like a million other things.

Also, do you know how telegraphs look? Have you ever used one?

Re: ISO Warning Signs

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Post by formerly_proven » Fri, Aug 05, 2022, 12:40 PM UTC

techdragon wrote: post #3

This is one of those standards I wish we could just unlock as free. We are surrounded by these symbols due to their obvious utility, to the point where I routinely see them used unknowingly on things that cannot possibly be legal given the copyrights inherent in the original source material, yet because many people not working in an industry that comes across such standards documents as part of standards compliance..…

> given the copyrights inherent in the original source material

It's not obvious to me that (under US law) these are copyright protected. It may be a similar case as typefaces vs. fonts. The language on the ISO website suggests, at least to me, that you are paying for particular files in particular formats and are not licensing a protected symbol. Also the language in the ISO standards describes abstract symbols, and afaik there is no normative requirement to use the exact images from the standard / ISO to be compliant.

Re: ISO Warning Signs

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Aug 05, 2022, 12:41 PM UTC

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Re: ISO Warning Signs

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Post by skoob » Fri, Aug 05, 2022, 12:43 PM UTC

dtagames wrote: post #5

Will the phone symbol need to be updated since phones haven't looked like that in a long time? It could be tough to explain the "emergency phone" one, for example, to a kid.

You mean the phone app icon? The symbol that's in the middle of the Whatsapp logo? I think it'll be fine for a while. Probably for as long as physical emergency phones exist.