Tesla on autopilot rear ends motorcycle on freeway, killing rider
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Re: Tesla on autopilot rear ends motorcycle on freeway, killing rider
#2> The car's autopilot was on at the time of the crash, UHP said.
I wonder whether the UHP pulled data from the car to verify this, or just took the driver's word for it.
Re: Tesla on autopilot rear ends motorcycle on freeway, killing rider
#3> The car's autopilot was on at the time of the crash, UHP said. I wonder whether the UHP pulled data from the car to verify this, or just took the driver's word for it.
The driver is still liable right? Is it still the driver’s responsibility or keeping aware and ready to react or is the autopilot software allowed to autonomously drive these days?
Re: Tesla on autopilot rear ends motorcycle on freeway, killing rider
#4> The car's autopilot was on at the time of the crash, UHP said. I wonder whether the UHP pulled data from the car to verify this, or just took the driver's word for it.
The driver is still liable right? Is it still the driver’s responsibility or keeping aware and ready to react or is the autopilot software allowed to autonomously drive these days?
The driver is indeed still liable (since it's only a level 2 system), but that seems like the kind of thing that a lot of people would lie about anyway.
Re: Tesla on autopilot rear ends motorcycle on freeway, killing rider
#5I always think it's weird how instead of just improving public transit, we've all become fixated on self driving vehicles. Good transit would mean most people don't need to operate a vehicle while having a plethora of other benefits like combating climate change and more efficient land use (if you live in a suburb, take note of the sheer amount land dedicated to parking; it's often more land than the store for retail).
The problem is kind of similar to people who insist on some overly complicated microservice architecture when a monolith would be a much better fit. I actually hope that self driving technology stagnates, at least until we can start designing cities for people and not just cars.
I live near where the accident occurred and there is definitely sufficient population to support alternatives to driving.
Re: Tesla on autopilot rear ends motorcycle on freeway, killing rider
#6Earlier quoted context omitted.
The driver is still liable right? Is it still the driver’s responsibility or keeping aware and ready to react or is the autopilot software allowed to autonomously drive these days?
The driver is indeed still liable (since it's only a level 2 system), but that seems like the kind of thing that a lot of people would lie about anyway.
They wouldn’t get away with it though as the car logs that sort of thing.
Re: Tesla on autopilot rear ends motorcycle on freeway, killing rider
#7I always think it's weird how instead of just improving public transit, we've all become fixated on self driving vehicles. Good transit would mean most people don't need to operate a vehicle while having a plethora of other benefits like combating climate change and more efficient land use (if you live in a suburb, take note of the sheer amount land dedicated to parking; it's often more land than the store for retail…
I doubt “we” can really fix public transit. The places where it’s great have an immense culture towards it. Here even places where the public transit network is extensive like NYC or Boston still face huge funding shortfalls and a lot of antagonism from their statehouses. Maybe self driving cars is an easier problem.
Re: Tesla on autopilot rear ends motorcycle on freeway, killing rider
#8> The car's autopilot was on at the time of the crash, UHP said. I wonder whether the UHP pulled data from the car to verify this, or just took the driver's word for it.
The driver is still liable right? Is it still the driver’s responsibility or keeping aware and ready to react or is the autopilot software allowed to autonomously drive these days?
Tesla should be liable by virtue of calling things 'autopilot' or 'full self driving' which aren't.
Re: Tesla on autopilot rear ends motorcycle on freeway, killing rider
#9I always think it's weird how instead of just improving public transit, we've all become fixated on self driving vehicles. Good transit would mean most people don't need to operate a vehicle while having a plethora of other benefits like combating climate change and more efficient land use (if you live in a suburb, take note of the sheer amount land dedicated to parking; it's often more land than the store for retail…
Transit is not a replacement for cars in USA outside of the densest urban cores, and those areas are paradoxically the worst offenders for crime, drugs, and other urban issues which keep many off of transit.
Re: Tesla on autopilot rear ends motorcycle on freeway, killing rider
#10I always think it's weird how instead of just improving public transit, we've all become fixated on self driving vehicles. Good transit would mean most people don't need to operate a vehicle while having a plethora of other benefits like combating climate change and more efficient land use (if you live in a suburb, take note of the sheer amount land dedicated to parking; it's often more land than the store for retail…
Your analogy to microservices is apt. It’s unchecked technologism at its worst.
We already have the solutions for the future of transport, but they’re not sexy like self-driving cars, and they don’t prop up the auto industry. Walking, bikes, buses, trams, metros, combined with more dense mixed-use zoning everywhere.