Danish Data Protection Agency bans Google Workspace for Municipalities
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Danish Data Protection Agency bans Google Workspace for Municipalities
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Re: Danish Data Protection Agency bans Google Workspace for Municipalities
#2This is a good thing! I hope my country (Sweden) follows suit.
Re: Danish Data Protection Agency bans Google Workspace for Municipalities
#3As all court rulings that one uses wording which is impossible interpret unambiguously. Example " A general ban on processing with Google Workspace until adequate documentation and impact assessment has been made and until the processing operations have been brought into compliance with the Regulation" whatever it means.
Re: Danish Data Protection Agency bans Google Workspace for Municipalities
#4This is a good thing! I hope my country (Sweden) follows suit.
Why do you think this is a good thing?
Re: Danish Data Protection Agency bans Google Workspace for Municipalities
#5I’m trying to understand the current position of the EU commission on data transfers to the US. Based on this plus the recent google analytics decisions, it seems to me that data transfers to the US are going to be prohibited by default under the recent interpretations of chapter V. Am I understanding this correctly?
Re: Danish Data Protection Agency bans Google Workspace for Municipalities
#6I’m trying to understand the current position of the EU commission on data transfers to the US. Based on this plus the recent google analytics decisions, it seems to me that data transfers to the US are going to be prohibited by default under the recent interpretations of chapter V. Am I understanding this correctly?
Since the entire Privacy Shield has been ruled invalid it seems all EU-US transfers/multinational corporations which process personal data are in a tough spot. I think Max Schrems (who took Facebook, among others, to court on GDPR) has a good explanation:
https://noyb.eu/en/project/eu-us-transfers
> At its core, this case is about a conflict of law between US surveillance laws which demand surveillance and EU data protection laws that require privacy.
Re: Danish Data Protection Agency bans Google Workspace for Municipalities
#7This is a good thing! I hope my country (Sweden) follows suit.
Why do you think this is a good thing?
Not OP but but I try to explain it from my subjective perspective: It's good because that's not your small nodejs startup but rather Municipalities. They process sensitive data about their citizens and I'm sure Denmark has strict privacy laws for that. Giving that data to Google means it's now in the US and can be used by NSA or other organisations for spying. Does that happen? I don't know. But why take the risk. Secret court orders for national security are a thing. So it's a danger to the independence of the Danish state. Might all sound a little hyperbolic and theoretic but it can't be excluded. Furthermore it's illegal under current EU law ontop of that. See the other links to Max Schremps works here. Of course due to the sad state of public it infrastructure in Europe the risk for loosing the data is probably much higher than storing it at Google. I'm not optimistic that this will change. Too much lousy small firms and borderline corruption and too much tax money to earn.
Re: Danish Data Protection Agency bans Google Workspace for Municipalities
#8I’m trying to understand the current position of the EU commission on data transfers to the US. Based on this plus the recent google analytics decisions, it seems to me that data transfers to the US are going to be prohibited by default under the recent interpretations of chapter V. Am I understanding this correctly?
Since the entire Privacy Shield has been ruled invalid it seems all EU-US transfers/multinational corporations which process personal data are in a tough spot. I think Max Schrems (who took Facebook, among others, to court on GDPR) has a good explanation: https://noyb.eu/en/project/eu-us-transfers > At its core, this case is about a conflict of law between US surveillance laws which demand surveillance and EU data pr…
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Re: Danish Data Protection Agency bans Google Workspace for Municipalities
#9This is a good thing! I hope my country (Sweden) follows suit.
That would be bad, since that’d mean storing the data themselves, with an increased risk of data leaks. (There was a medical data leak as recently as today from a Swedish agency. The track record is unfortunately not good)
But the law is the law.
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why do you think this is a good thing?
Not OP but but I try to explain it from my subjective perspective: It's good because that's not your small nodejs startup but rather Municipalities. They process sensitive data about their citizens and I'm sure Denmark has strict privacy laws for that. Giving that data to Google means it's now in the US and can be used by NSA or other organisations for spying. Does that happen? I don't know. But why take the risk. Se…
Counterpoint:
The data that municipalities store is not super sensitive, at worst it contains information about the number of sick days and salary. If the NSA cares about this data at all, it will probably have other means to obtain it.
On the other hand, the municipalities might now have to spend a lot more taxpayer money to support a worse system that might reduce their efficiency, increasing wait times and frustrations for citizens.