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Re: Andrej Karpathy leaves Tesla

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Tesla has bet the company on robotaxis, but their vision only tech stack doesn’t seem capable of solving it, which is a problem because Tesla has repeatedly promised FSD is right around the corner, or less than a year away. It’s hard to believe Karpathy would step down if he felt they were close to solving the problem anytime soon.

This announcement comes after a 4 month sabbatical where Karpathy said he wanted to take some time off to “sharpen my technical edge,” which makes it sound like this is the result of frustration with the technical approach instead of burnout.

Re: Andrej Karpathy leaves Tesla

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Well, Musk said recently that the value of Tesla is 0 without FSD.

Does anybody seriously think Karpathy would step down if FSD was really close to be released ??

It really starts to feel like Tesla is a huge fraud which is about to be uncovered.

Re: Andrej Karpathy leaves Tesla

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Oh dear. So who is going to improve on making and shilling the 'Fools Self Driving' (FSD) beta demoware that not only it is 'allegedly' half-working, but is already under ridiculous amounts of scrutiny and investigation by the regulators, especially with deceptive advertising putting drivers on the road at risk?

Once again, where are the robot-taxis as promised for release in 2020?

Re: Andrej Karpathy leaves Tesla

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Tesla has bet the company on robotaxis, but their vision only tech stack doesn’t seem capable of solving it, which is a problem because Tesla has repeatedly promised FSD is right around the corner, or less than a year away. It’s hard to believe Karpathy would step down if he felt they were close to solving the problem anytime soon. This announcement comes after a 4 month sabbatical where Karpathy said he wanted to ta…

Yeah, but Google's vision + lidar tech also doesn't seem any better at solving it either. They have been working on this problem the longest and they aren't even confident enough to produce a product with it. Google is probably the leader in AI and AI research. They are also the leader in data and mapping. They have billions of cash to play with. Yet it seem like they haven't gotten any closer at solving this problem as well.

They are just going about it better but not trying to selling it.

Any reason why everyone seems to be stuck on this problem?

Re: Andrej Karpathy leaves Tesla

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post #2

That was the prediction when he took a “sabbatical” back in March. Why do people leave companies in this manner?

A couple of theories:

1) It sometimes can be hard to leave a company when you are "in the thick of it." A sabbatical can give you personal time to reflect on whether you want to stay or not.

2) Sometimes people use sabbaticals to prep/perform job interviews or plan career transitions.

3) Sabbaticals can allow you to quit early while waiting for vesting restricted stock units, employee stock plan sales, retirement contributions (matches), etc. There are certainly many more timed bonuses available for senior leaders.

Re: Andrej Karpathy leaves Tesla

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Tesla has bet the company on robotaxis, but their vision only tech stack doesn’t seem capable of solving it, which is a problem because Tesla has repeatedly promised FSD is right around the corner, or less than a year away. It’s hard to believe Karpathy would step down if he felt they were close to solving the problem anytime soon. This announcement comes after a 4 month sabbatical where Karpathy said he wanted to ta…

Yeah, but Google's vision + lidar tech also doesn't seem any better at solving it either. They have been working on this problem the longest and they aren't even confident enough to produce a product with it. Google is probably the leader in AI and AI research. They are also the leader in data and mapping. They have billions of cash to play with. Yet it seem like they haven't gotten any closer at solving this problem…

>Any reason why everyone seems to be stuck on this problem?

ML maximalism focused on the narrow problem of 'solving driving' while not recognizing that any task as complex as driving requires probably something closer to general intelligence, and theoretically the field has been impoverished in favor of "throw more graphics cards at everything".

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